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Kellyanne Conway is not one to beat around the bush — if she has something to say, she usually just comes right out and says it.
During the transition, Conway was up front with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, telling him that she had been offered the job of White House Press Secretary. She explained that she had turned down the position in order to focus on her four children.
But Conway was (if possible) even more candid during a recent interview with New York Magazine:
She ate a few pieces of cinnamon-flavored Orbit, the gum of choice of Sean Spicer, who’s technically the public face of the new administration, though Conway was first floated as an obvious pick for press secretary.
Asked if she would ever want his job, she rolled her eyes. “Slit my wrists, bleed out, put cement shoes on, jump off the bridge, and then I’ll take the job — are you kidding me?”
When asked about a few of her famous flubs, Conway was ready to tell all:
Of course, to hear Conway tell it, nothing that nefarious is going on at all. She shrugs when asked about the inaccurate things she’s said. The Bowling Green Massacre? She meant to say “Bowling Green masterminds,” she told me, referring to the would-be terrorists who were apprehended before they staged an attack.
And alternative facts? “Two plus two is four. Three plus one is four. Partly cloudy, partly sunny. Glass half full, glass half empty. Those are alternative facts,” she said, further defining the infamous phrase as “additional facts and alternative information.”
She also addressed the issues surrounding former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn and how it was possible for her to believe that he “had the president's full confidence” just hours before he was asked to resign:
“The way we roll is, things are thought through in a smaller group and people are brought in as they need to be brought in for input,” Bannon explained. “I think it’s a pretty good way to manage things. There’s a tendency, if you get too broad too quickly, either things can leak out or it’s just not as tight as you can roll, and I think the General Flynn thing was that.
It was obviously embarrassing to her, and the media immediately jumps on it because, look, no offense, the media, let’s be honest about it, it’s a lot like junior-high school.” (Bannon himself attended an all-boys military school.) “It’s a ‘who’s in, who’s out.’ It’s all of this snarky stuff.”
But the degree to which a senior White House official is “in,” when the job, in part, is to communicate the president’s thinking to the general public via the media, is rather important — as members of the media, already warring with Conway, were quick to point out.
“Anybody who pretends I’m not smart or not credible, it’s like, ‘Excuse me, I’ve spoken 1.2 million words on TV, okay?,’ ” Conway told me before the Flynn mishap. “You wanna focus on two here and two there, it’s on you, you’re a f**king miserable person, P.S., just whoever you are.”
Conway spoke at length about her work with the president — and the fact that she is one of the few who can “waltz into the Oval Office unannounced” — but took one moment toward the end of the interview to address her own personal goals.
A strong pro-life advocate, Conway (who joined Vice President Mike Pence at the 2017 March for Life) said that her hope for America is "to make us culturally — not politically — more sensitive to the value of life.”