Cheney Declares She’ll ‘Always Defend God’ as Dem Rep Tries to Cut ‘so Help Me God’ From Oath of Office

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) isn’t letting a Democratic representative off easy amid his call that the “so help me God” part of the congressional oath should be removed.

Rep. Jared Huffman (D-Calif.) said during the Freedom From Religion Foundation’s “Freethought Matters” event that he finds it “preposterous” that witnesses testifying before a committee have to recite the phrase.

Calling it a “sporadic standard,” Huffman — who is a member of the House Natural Resources Committee — made note that “some committees have dropped the oath, others have not.”

The Democratic representative went on to blast Cheney as going “ballistic” over the attempted change to the oath at the beginning of the year.

“It’s unconstitutional to require a witness in congressional testimony to affirm an oath to a deity they may not even believe in, or to affirm an oath to a singular deity when you might be a polytheistic Hindu, for example,” the Democratic representative said. “It’s just preposterous.”

“If we were to have a hearing on climate change, for example, and we wanted to call one of the foremost physicists, let’s say Neil Degrasse Tyson. He’s an atheist. Do we force him to affirm an oath to a God he doesn’t believe in? It really, frankly, strains credulity that in this day and age Congress would have something like that, and yet some of the politics persist.”

However, Cheney is declaring that she won’t be backing down from her support in keeping “so help me God” in the oath.

“Liz Cheney will always defend God. Period,” Cheney’s spokesperson told Fox News. “If that bothers Rep. Huffman, we’ll be praying for him.”

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The House Natural Resources Committee sought to remove the phrase in January, but they ultimately voted to keep it.

Cheney at the time blasted the move while claiming the Democratic Party as becoming “the party of Karl Marx.”

Responses

  1. contusion-“Also download the PDF “On The Historicity Of Jesus” 2014, by Dr Richard Carrier.” Yep, just keep suggesting that we read the works of renowned atheists and try to tell us that they give Christianity a fair shake. You are so full of it.

  2. You are ignorant of history, Little General. Perhaps the pages of your copy were stuck together by the splooge of your little privates.

    Again, you missed the part where I admit to deny the “miracles” of the Bible, but I can’t deny other historical accounts of Jesus’s existence.

    And again, I’ll pass on your book of the month club. The Seidel reference of yours was more crap than a laugh, but it sure as Hell was ignorant of facts.

  3. If you don’t realize The United States of America officially recognizes our creator, read the Declaration of Independence.

    If you think officially recognizing our creator conflicts with freedom of religion, think again. It only conflicts with freedom FROM religion which is not guaranteed by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

  4. “Jesus DID exist.” NotSoWellHung Chad

    You are confused by Euhemerization.

    1. Also download the PDF “On The Historicity Of Jesus” 2014, by Dr Richard Carrier.

  5. Phoenix: …Yet you seemed to be able to read my response. And yes, the sight is broken. More than one response disables the ability to read any of them, but thanks for reminding me, Captain Obvious.
    When you quote somebody else, identify who’s quote it is, I’m sure I’m not the only one that is irritated by not being able to load more comments to read older ones. Although I wouldn’t say I particularly “miss” reading your nonsense.

    Not only does your reading comprehension suck, so does your ability to write coherently.
    Have a day!

  6. The Little General playing with his privates:
    >”Christianity was formed to confuse and convince people, including themselves, that they ARE under attack. It is what their whole religious story is based upon ever since the Jesus era.”<

    Jesus DID exist. He's noted in many historical Roman and Jewish texts besides the Bible. The story of Jesus WAS one of persecution because the Jewish and Roman leaders couldn't stand that he was able amass such a following, thus his crucifixion. His followers were subsequently attacked when they would not give up preaching HIS word. Sounds like the tyrannical governments of today and militant atheists such as yourself.

    Are you denying the existence of Jesus, his crucifixion, that Christians in the Middle East are persecuted because they won't recognize a murderous fake prophet named Mohammad?

    If so, You are ignorant of history and that's the source of your confusion! Again, I deny the Son of God status of Jesus but I do believe he brought a code of ethics to the human race that if we all follow it we would be much better off.

    Again, are you afraid of some Christian "saving" you to death, or would you prefer to be enslaved or beheaded because you don't accept the death cult of Islam? Would you prefer we swear our oaths to Barney the dinosaur?

    If you deny the power of a being higher than man (be it God, or the giant spaghetti monster if you prefer) by default, those powers fall back to man and the freedoms and rights we enjoy are no longer inalienable.

    1. Read “Proving History”, by Richard Carrier ISBN-13 978-1616145590

  7. contusion- please QUIT telling all of us here that the BEST source you have to learn about the game of baseball, is to talk to a bunch of basketball coaches. Please stop with your idiocy.

  8. genital contusion- based on EVERY ONE of your comments, you don’t know crap about Christianity. Please QUIT acting like you do. Everything you know about Christianity is based on your belief in what you have read from ATHEISTS, which of course, is the BEST source about Christianity, without a doubt . Your personal ignorance knows no bounds, but please, keep typing here for all of us to see your ignorance. EVERY source you have cited here about Christianity is from a self- proclaimed atheist, especially the one about how you believe an atheist college professor is the BEST source you have to learn about Christianity. YOU are seriously confused. Based on the sources you cite, you have ZERO clue about Christianity and are the LAST person who should be commenting on it.

    1. “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” Carl Sagan
      “An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof” Marcello Truzzi

      If you want a serious critique about a topic, cite serious, accredited, peer reviewed people. If your beliefs can’t pass a smell test, they aren’t worth believing, right?

  9. WHC – for whatever reason you seem completely incapable of picking up that the site is broken so you can’t see where he responded to my original post. Additionally you must have missed where i copied his comment (in quotes above my comment) to me where he demanded I explain how i believe we all came to be on earth if not God. I didn’t even comment on his full post – just the one where he tried to rag on me.

    For people who also don’t understand, the site is broken and has been for months so you cannot see past two responses. I’m responding to WHC whinging about nothing.

  10. “It is so tiresome being attacked for one’s belief in God.” Cherl

    “No one is attacking your belief in God.” Phoenix

    Phoenix, it doesn’t matter to them that “Christians” AREN’T under attack. They have an ongoing campaign since Christianity was formed to confuse and convince people, including themselves, that they ARE under attack. It is what their whole religious story is based upon ever since the Jesus era. It is also how they justify their cruel demands and laws that they want passed today, and why they want to set up a theocratic dictatorship in America – to isolate and protect themselves from criticism or restraints. “In God we trust” and “so help me God” are just a tiny part of this slippery slope.

  11. “Who do you think created everything around you, and who was the first people to be placed on this earth” Rodney Orr

    Look up the 42+ part on-going series on YouTube, “Systematic Classification of Life” series. It will take you through all life related to our clade from the start to close to now, plus a whole bunch more.

  12. In 1956, the United States Congress passed an act (H. J. Resolution 396), adopting “In God We Trust” as the official motto. ”So help me God” is in oaths since the Judiciary Act of 1789, for U.S. officers other than the President. So in all those years, there had to be just one person who just didn’t think they believed in God. Why? Who knows? If it’s that egregious don’t run for office. It is so tiresome being attacked for one’s belief in God. Why did the Pilgrims leave England? Religious freedom. Obviously it means little to the politicians who swear to God anyway.

    1. No one is attacking your belief in God. People are just asking not to be required to swear an oath to a God they believe in. Can you tell me one way allowing wording that supports other religious beliefs for the witness oath would impact your life?

      Seriously, how is this attacking your beliefs?

  13. “So if you do not believe in the Lord or God, then I have a little question for you!!!! Who do you think created everything around you, and who was the first people to be placed on this earth, and don’t go telling me about Darwin’s theory, because it has been debunked for years!!!!!!!!!,”

    Religious clarifications and discussions are fun, but you aren’t looking to discuss so I’m going to pass on this one. Rodney, I never have and never will ask someone justify their reasoning for believing in God to me. I ask that you extend that same courtesy.

    Have a nice day.

    1. Rodney never asked you to justify your faith or lack thereof. He was stating fact and recounting oaths of allegiance. I’m an atheist myself and I understood completely what he was saying and took no offense. But I DO respect an oath of allegiance and understand the penalties of violating it…whether it involves the “G” word or not!
      Why did you take offense to his statement?
      Is reading comprehension not your thing?

  14. Amen. The only reason they want to remove it is because they know he s true and real

  15. I took an oath in 1969 when I joined the military!!!!!! This is what it said: I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God!!!! The same oath is asked to be repeated by anyone that takes an appointment to the house or senate, and it reads as follows: “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” This section does not affect other oaths required by law. You are also required to take an oath before the court and it reads as follows: For a witness appearing in court, the form of oath taken is generally as follows: “I swear (or the person taking the oath may promise) by Almighty God (or the person may name a god recognised by his or her religion) that the evidence I shall give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.”. First thing, you have to feel sorry for Huffman, because he comes from the STATE OF CONFUSSION, otherwise know as California!!!!! It is full of dim wits, libs, rinos and illegals, so you have to really and I do mean really feel sorry for them!!!!! Prime example of this is Prop 65, that is that everything made today according to me will cause cancer!!!!!!! Plus they trample all over the UNITED STATES CONSITUTION!!!!!!! If they don’t like it is UNCONISTUTIONAL!!!!!

  16. I believe in God but swearing an oath certainly has never prevented people from lying to Congress, lying in court, etc….And talking about liars, it’s CONGRESS.

  17. It is becoming more widely known the Left – the DemocRAT Party – is not only the anti-American Party of Hate; but the Godless Party. Has been since their 2016 Convention.

    1. If you are actually agnostic then why do you care if a party is Godless? The implication of that being inherently bad makes me think you aren’t actually agnostic. You posted twice and its like two entirely different POVs.

      … are you ok?

    2. James, you are confused: Trump won, thus ensuring a Godless presidency.

  18. As an Agnostic, I couldn’t care less who or what myth I am supposed to swear to under oath. Most people will lie to S.Y.A. and to escape the consequences; even in Court. Have seen it done just recently by an ex-son-in-law (and who got caught lying).

  19. What an odd thing to put your foot down on. If a witness isn’t Christian then saying an oath to God is pretty useless.

    This isn’t trampling Christian rights, but it is an issue for Non Christians. I would personally bristle at being forced to swear an oath to God.

    Don’t other committees just have like a template that can be adjusted based on the witnesses religious views?

    1. So if you do not believe in the Lord or God, then I have a little question for you!!!! Who do you think created everything around you, and who was the first people to be placed on this earth, and don’t go telling me about Darwin’s theory, because it has been debunked for years!!!!!!!!!

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