Chris Cuomo interviewed Kellyanne Conway on Thursday and, as the two have done many times in the past, they quickly descended into a heated back and forth.
The two began the interview with smiles and Christmas pleasantries before immediately launching into an existential debate on the topic of what exactly constitutes a fact.
Watch the video below, via CNN:
White House counselor Kellyanne Conway: "President Trump said he never directed anybody to" pay hush-money payments
— Cuomo Prime Time (@CuomoPrimeTime) December 14, 2018
But the interview came to a heated crescendo when Conway took issue with Cuomo’s use of the word “liar” to refer to the president.
“You took a shot at the president tonight,” Conway said. “You called him a slur I’m not going to repeat.”
Cuomo appeared dumbfounded and visibly confused by the allegation, asking the top Trump adviser to clarify what she meant.
“You’re saying he’s not telling the truth,” Conway said.
“He lies a lot, that’s a reality,” Cuomo shot back.
According to Kellyanne Conway, the word "liar" is now a slur. pic.twitter.com/aygJl8nzII
“That’s a slur,” Conway claimed.
“I am not going to take the president only at his word when he has a record of lying about these things,” Cuomo answered. “He said he didn’t know about the Stormy Daniels payment, he said that the guy was just a PR agent, then he says he’s his lawyer, then he says nothing happened, then we have the tape with his voice on it.”
“I mean, the facts are overwhelming,” he added.
Conway’s own husband seems to agree with Cuomo’s assessment of the president, writing in a late Thursday tweet that the president’s word is not as reliable as the world of federal prosecutors.
Given that Trump has repeatedly lied about the Daniels and McDougal payments—and given that he lies about virtually everything else, to the point that his own former personal lawyer described him as a “f****ing liar”—why should we take his word over that of federal prosecutors?
— George Conway (@gtconway3d) December 14, 2018
“Why should we take his word over that of federal prosecutors,” Conway asked.