Four Dead After Elementary School Shooting in Northern California
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34 Comments
  • Becky Fahrenkrog10 days ago

    Anyone else think this was probably one of Moonbeam's illegals?

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  • @FastEddie10 days ago

    The story states the gunman is dead, but the witness states in the interview that there were two gunmen.  Where is the other gunman involved in this horrible tragedy?

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    • @tsAtomic10 days ago

      Article says he *thought* there were two gunman because he saw someone running away. Could have been another gunman. Since it was morning drop-off time, it could have been an unarmed parent running to cover. Could have been someone firing back at the attacking gunman. We don't know exactly *what* just yet, so it is probably best not to "solve the case" before all the information is in.

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  • @Otisamsonite10 days ago

    Dear God!  Is this insanity never going to stop?

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    • Peter B10 days ago

      exactly. that's what it is: insanity. RIP, all victims and their families.

      church needs to pray. responsible citizens must stay alert and carry. law enforcements must carry out existing laws to a 'T'

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    • Rosi Teresi10 days ago

      Sure it is.  Just as soon as libs figure out that disarming the prey doesn't make the predator reconsider an d go away.  This guy certainly did not say, "Oh, this is a gun free zone. I better go somewhere else."  He said< "Oh boy! Gun free zone. Lots of helpless targets".

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  • Linda Cauble10 days ago

    Thank you, Jerry Brown, for passing a law that there can be no armed guards at schools.

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  • Julie Newport10 days ago

    Fake news.  I just got an alert that no one is dead, 2 children hurt.  When will we stop listening to overblown news reports?

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  • Jim Wharry10 days ago

    Gee, wonder why the  police are unsure about the shooter's 'identity'.  Perhaps Becky is correct, one of moonbeam's illegals or perhaps one of those from the visa lottery.  

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    • IntegrityImportant10 days ago

      No way to wonder if the shooter is now dead and the police surely got a big, long look at his face. It's probably one of Moonbeams illegals or a minority. If so, they are strategizing about how to make the announcement as conflict free as possible. I can help them with that: if it's either, the hypocritical libs will jump no matter how this is handled!

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  • mrbgibs10 days ago

    The one thing about California is that you can't tell the ILLEGALS OR THE CRAZY'S WITHOUT A PROGRAM 

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  • Bignemo9 days ago

    Answer to the problem is more guns! Go murica!

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  • Tommy Zadick9 days ago
    This all could have been prevented if only the school had been a gun free zone.
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    • Peter B10 days ago

      not "above." 2nd ALONG WITH the 1st. as a matter of fact, 2nd ensures 1st. 

      2nd is NOT a license for the insane to go out and shoot at their whims. it ensures that as citizens we have means to protect our 1st against the tyrrany of any gov't. if more anti-gun laws need to be passed, why not more anti-mass killing laws? see how effective that will be?

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    • @tsAtomic10 days ago

      I'll humor you JuJu for one question: Describe an effective law that would have stopped this.

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    • Mary Anne Marner10 days ago

      No mass shootings ever by NRA  members.  Right, Juju?

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    • Ilse Dujmovic10 days ago

      And now we are really talking about a sack of s**t, as you so well put it. You have nothing intelligent to say juju?

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    • Bob Jones10 days ago

      Juju, nobody wants to experience these murderous rampages. As a gun owner I am willing to accept any workable laws that disarm criminals and the mentally ill while allowing those of us who use guns legally for sport (I target shoot and hunt) and to defend ourselves (I have a conceal carry license) to continue to use them legally. My gun ownership is NOT responsible for these deaths. I buy my guns legally, go through the background checks, keep them in a secure location when not in use, and use them in a safe and legal manner. I would accept gun registration if that would work. I would accept more stringent background checks similar to the one I had to go through for conceal carry. I would accept a waiting period. I am supportive of laws that keep guns out of the hands of violent criminals particularly those who committed crimes with guns or who have domestic violence convictions. I am supportive of laws that keep guns out of the hands of those with diagnosed mental disorders. That said if we are to address "gun user violence" (yes, the gun needs a user to be dangerous) we need to understand the root causes underlying it. 1) Most gun violence is self inflicted. Suicide or accident. 2/3 of gun deaths are suicide. 22,000 so far 2017. 2) Most gun violence is committed with a handgun not a rifle. Violence using rifles make up a small % of gun deaths. 3) The second most pervasive situation for gun user violence is inner city criminal activity. Most gang related. 564 dead in Chicago alone this year. 4) Mass shooting as shown on the gun violence archive (4 or more shot and killed or injured) shows 317 incidents to date with 411 deaths out of 13, 545 total homcides not including suicide. Roughly 3% of the total. Only two of these had more than 10 killed and those two well publicized incidents had a total of 86 dead or about 21% of the total. Most mass shooting are domestic violence cases involving the shooters family. Most are committed with handguns. So, if one wants to significantly reduce gun user violence I would suggest we focus on 1) Suicide prevention. 2) Stricter enforcement of current laws particularly those involving use of a gun in the commission of crime. Convicted criminals and gang members should not have firearms. Take away their guns. Put them in jail. 3) Mass shooting will be reduced in number by stricter laws and enforcement as it pertains to domestic violence. Take away the guns from wife beaters and put them in jail if they are caught with a firearm. I'll be the first to admit I don't know how to stop the sort of mass killings we saw in Sutherland Springs or Las Vegas. Getting rid of bump stocks won't do it. Getting rid of "assault rifles won't do it. Better, more thorough background checks would have helped in Sutherland Springs but even enforcement of existing law would have helped. We need to do this right. What are your solutions JuJu? Take away every law abiding citizens gun? Even that won't work as those who are not law abiding are likely to just keep their guns and use them for evil purposes. Register guns? That's fine but it won't do anything either.  The government has a right to maintain order and frankly the 2nd amendment is not there to allow criminals and crazies to shoot others. That said it is there to make sure that any restrictions on gun ownership target those criminals and crazies and not law abiding citizens. Sorry about the length of the comment.  

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    • Jim Wharry10 days ago

      Kind of difficult to argue with stupidity!  Maybe you should have stayed in school and learned what the 2nd amendment is all about.

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      • IntegrityImportant10 days ago

        Jim Wharry: "Kind of difficult to argue with stupidity!"

        Right you are. Every once in a while I respond to stupid simply because it offers an opportunity to make a valid point but I do so for the benefit of others. I never expect stupid to get it. 

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  • Juju10 days ago

    Mary Ann you missed my sarcastic aim at Becky  clearly , I  gave up my membership back in 2001.  I personally saw a change in the mission of the NRA , and the body count climbs and NOTHING changes it makes me sick as a gun owner a responsible gun owner. Who wants to see reasons reforms.  No more senseless carnage.

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    • @Mari10 days ago

      Oh, was that sarcasm? Huh....

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    • Juju10 days ago

      Bob all of that sounds great.  In fact I would hope most if not all responsible gun owners behave in the same manner..  However, that is not the case as we both know children have killed getting their hands on their parents weapons.

      We live in a country that cherishes the 2nd amendment above all other rights.  It is clear, we register our cars, boats, ATVS two years ago my drones.But I am not required to registered my guns but, I did.  To KNOW in case they were ever stolen.  

      Every time a mass shooting happens we pray and send out heartbroken well wishes until the next time. And it becomes old and we become complacent in the death of children who just went to school to learn.  And left school in bodybags.  

      But we keep going asking stupid questions like "name one policy that could have stopped that gunman" or "back ground checks would not have made a difference"  and I follow up with maybe not this time. But the next one.  But we know doing NOTHING at all doesn't help either.

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  • Juju10 days ago

    Sorry ts no humor left, five dead  how many have to die?? We are the only developed country who has this problem.  Ts I w would start with military grade assault weapons no reason for anything that shoots rounds per seconds in your home. Unless you're hunting humans.  That would be a good start BAN ALL ASSULT WEAPONS we let the ban expire under Bush bring it back.  Next would be biotechnology for triggers ,crazy people should be precluded from OWNING, if you have ever had an issue PTSD would stop you from OWNING.  Yes I know what that means but, If it keeps us safer.

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    • Ray Lobsinger10 days ago

      So juju have you been paying attention to whats been going on? Because these sick people dont care what they use,get rid of guns and only the criminals wil have them.These sickos will find a way to hurt people no matter the weapon. so according to your deductions we should also get rid of trucks,knives,cars,bats ,machetes,forks,hammers,sledgehammers, and the list could go on.These all cause alot of carnage in the wrong hands.While your at it ban alcohol it causes more deaths and puts these wackos in the mood to kill. While your at it run for office and make a change lets see how far that gets you.It might be a good idea to act instead of talk and put people down,go out and make a change!!!!!!

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    • Juju9 days ago

      And Ray, to that I say kudos as in some open carry States they ALLOW guns in bars because booze and bullets always workout well!.  We can all agree there are no quick fixes. But, fixed need to come the sticking out heads in the sand and saying oh well how sad well come to an end.  

      The gun lobby will lose it's foothold on  congress and civil minded American will vote those TRIPLED A graded members out and sensible gun reforms will return.  Then I wake up and Trump is still being sung to by Philippines dick-ta-tor.

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  • VitoVino9 days ago

    I don’t claim to have the solution here.   I am just posting this as a suggestion… 

    What this country needs is a very strong deterrent.  I am suggesting that Congress pass a law which would include a new category for the death penalty. It would have a special clause for “crimes against humanity“. This would be the death penalty with an added twist.  Anyone shooting up defenseless people en masse would be subject to the following, after the sentencing:

    1) Death by Guillotine

    2) Execution in a public setting, perhaps in a football stadium. No charge and nobody under 21 allowed. 

    3) Swift justice, to occur no more than 14 days after sentencing.

    4) No appeals.

    With this kind of fate looming over one of these shooters heads, which includes the public humiliation, a strong deterrent will be in place. Of course there is a good possibility that the shooter will never make it to court, but that is another topic. 

    Everyone complains that nothing is being done. Let’s do this. 

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  • Mike9 days ago

    Now if the father was armed, he could have taken atleast one of the guys out! 

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  • Douglas Jane9 days ago
    The anti-self-protection Left keeps looking for more laws against gun owners when there are already plenty of laws in place to prevent mental cases and convicts from buying guns. The problem is these laws need to be enforcedvigorously. We don't need more anti-gun laws.
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