No kidding... Though I am so tired of the Racist crap being used for lawsuits, the fact that it got rid of Beckel doesn't hurt me one bit. I was so tired of seeing his smug fat face and acting as though he is just that. His attitude and language has gone way over board. But he may have always been that way and it may be the reason he can't hold a job for very long. I never knew of him until, I believe it was on the Hannity show.
Well Ilse the IT guy has joined in with the discrimination suit pending against Fox. Didn't take long did it? True, Bob could be crude and rude but they readily fired him so wouldn't that pre-empt any possible lawsuit. Or not in EO cases??
Anyway, I'm confused too Christina since liberals are the greatest non-racist people on earth. They spend half their time looking for reasons to point fingers at the rest of us. I'm personally pointing mine at Rahm, the great white mayor of Chicago, because he does NOTHING to stop the violence on the Southside. He's scared of the dems losing those votes I guess. Whatever it is, to me that's true racism, being mayor and standing by while residents shoot each other like some carnival game!
The left created these conditions where every word or thought is subject to loss of jobs and lawsuits! I hope they suffer in the society they have created. Glad this happened to a far left Democrat. I read that CNN has 125 employees bringing race based lawsuits. Can't be conservatives who offended them, because CNN has no conservatives other than an occasional guest.
Christina Toland: Like so many liberals of his stripe, Bob Beckel cannot seem to hold still long enough for anyone else to give an answer to or an opinion on any other subject which comes before the panel. He has a tendency in recent times to interrupt whatever someone else is saying or he keeps on talking, while they're trying to answer a question he has posed. He used to be an interesting spokesman for things "left", but, lately, he has just blabbed on about general nonsense, usually off the subject at hand and usually while someone else is trying to answer a question he has put forth. That's a liberal technique: keep talking others down, especially when your position is way off the mark.
At the same time, I would have to agree wholeheartedly with Ilse Dujmovic on all of this racist trash being used as a subject for a lawsuit. People should be free to say anything they wish and they can and frequently do so. However, normal social courtesies should keep general conversation within acceptable bounds of behavior. But unless a remark is made for the purpose of deliberate slander and/or libel, lawsuits on supposedly racist grounds are a waste of time and merely tie up our judicial system unnecessarily.
I agree with Ellen, Bill and other posters here. Juan Williams is only marginally better than Bob. Neither have much of an intellect and Juan doesn't have one objective bone in his body. I fast forward over his comments which destroys the flow of the show. I'll have to tune out someday too if they can't find a liberal with more to offer than either one of these two. Of note though, both do represent conditions on the liberal side right now, closed-minded, unobjective and crude. The only thing neither did was the Schumer fake tear thingy. Wonder if they're keeping Juan because of the lawsuit because I know I'm not the only viewer complaining about him.
A Big Bye Bye to Bob. And Be Gone Juan. Please Be Gone!
Yep! I agree, the thing about Juan that really gets my goat is that he says MOST American agree with whatever statement or argument he gives but no ones ever says where do you get this "MOST Americans" statistic Juan.....and he gets away with his untrue analysis, every time! I don't think MOST American agree with his looney arguements cause they are not based on facts or commonsense, to me ....
How very hypocritical of Beckel who claims to champion the blacks and hispanics who have really been mistreated by the Democrat party for decades. He is the man who tells us that the Republicans hate the minorities..and then he says something bigoted to an employee of color. Glad he is gone.......don't even know why they took him back.
In private, Libs and Dems HATE Blacks.... Remember how Hillary's staff were laughing at the Black woman's name and making fun of her hair.. That's the REAL DEMOCRATS..In public, Blacks are their priority.. But they had no problem lynching them with their KKK... Blacks need to wake up......
Bill, and Hispanics..... referring to them as the "Taco Bowl" in their internal emails and how easy it is to get their vote. Seriously, these liberals have created such a behemoth of PC and hatred and intolerance, they are ALL going to be destroyed by their own creation.
Bob Beckel was angry unmannered Curmudgeon. He was downright rude in exchanges with the other cohosts on The Five. He was particularly rude to Jesse Watters. His verbal attacks were at times on the verge of inciting a physical response.
Go find yourself a bottle of Night Train and be the grumpy old drunk that you really are. Good riddance to a terrible commentator.
The Five should prosper having gotten rid of the grouchy know it all.
@Bodysouls, I agree Juan is great at looking shocked AND he's also good at looking like he's smarter than the other 4 members. Neither he nor Bob adds anything to the show. Both can make me cringe. Juan is there because of EO; otherwise, he's be gone too. Won't miss Bob at all.
This has got to stop. Everyone needs to stop being so sensitive.. So some one hurt your feelings . That is life. people say stuff when they angry. An apology should have been enough! Tired of all this PPC stuff. It makes the workplace dysfunctional and passive aggressive. You got a problem confront directly and clear the air. Stop running like little kids to the boos and act like adults!!!
I have to agree. I am tired of it and believe it promotes a false state of acceptance. At least when we had true free speech we knew what people actually thought. It's a bad thing trying to govern thoughts and speech, I believe it's actually communism. But hey, at least it's PC right? You get what you wish for.
He's only the most recent. Paula Deen for a comment made 17 YEARS ago. It's utter rubbish from a country that claims to have free speech. Do I like what he said, no but I defend his right. Trust me the IT guy had a few choice words when talking to his friends and family about it.
I will miss Bob Beckel. He and I are pretty much polar opposites policically, but I still appreciated his views and the wealth of experience and knowledge he brought to the table. I read his book "I Should Be Dead" and understand him so much better after doing so. I hope he lands on his feet and will miss him on this show. I will say (and I am an occasional viewer, not an everyday watcher) I did not enjoy the interaction between Bob and Jessie Waters. The show lost some of its chemistry when Eric Bolling left the show. He and Bob would stand toe to toe and go at it, but you never felt that it was mean spirited, even if it did get angry.
@JBHGator, IMO Jessie adds a lot more to the show than either Bob or Juan. There is a way to disagree without being disagreeable. Bob didn't seem to know that rule and certainly was coarse at times toward the other hosts. Bob resented Jessie's conservative viewpoints.
This sounds very strange to me. I don't think Beckel is a racist I just think that there a lot of black snowflakes at FOX. I heard that there is a law suit by some black employees about the "company atmosphere". So they have to seek out insentient white people to prove their piont. Beckel is a loveable liberal everybody he works with likes him even though they disagree with him. By all accounts he a kind human being, its hard to believe he would intentionally hurt anyone. He was probably just joking, and thought because he is a lib that the IT guy would know it was.
Really John? Name recognition? You know when you post you'll get thumbs down because of the wording and/or the sentiments of your comments--your name makes them easy to find! Seriously. However, I left you and @Indie a congratulatory note for publicly posting that you're the two intellects here LOL! So Indie meet John. John meet Indie. Welcome to both of you! These boards, for better or worse, are the future. I remember when one had to call a radio station if one wanted to hyperventilate! So we won't always agree for sure but Bob was a blowhard and Juan needs to go too for different reasons. That's what this is about--for better or worst!
Somehow my BS meter is pegging on this. There'a been too many he said/she said disputes going on there at Fox and I smell Soros money.
I'm no Beckel fan, but as the Fox personalitlies gradually get picked off one by one, their ratings fall and their perspective on the news fades into the mud with CNN and MSLSD...excuse me, MSNBC.
I'm curious about witnesses. Unless Beckel just admitted it, how would they know it was true if someone just made an accusation with no proof? Like these sexual harassment complaints supposedly done in private. If all it takes is an accusation with no witness or proof, anyone can say anything and cause people to lose their jobs! Of course we see the IT guy already has a lawyer and looking for big $$$.
To me, this is so funny. Here's liberal Democratic Beckel fighting for the Democratic way and he's fired because of words with black Democratic employees. There is no "truth" in the Democratic Party. They use people with lies strictly for their votes. Reminds me of a story about the Mormons years ago (things might have changed) when they decided that black men could become Priest in the church, but when they died, they became slaves again. This is how I feel about the Democrats love for Gays, Blacks and minorities. Anything for a vote!!
Not sure where you got your info but it's false. Mormons never believed blacks would "become slaves again". They did withold the priesthood from them until 1978. Here's their official stance https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the-priesthood?lang=eng
Fox has always had a problem with trying to live up to its claim of fair and balanced. In this case Beckel was the token Liberal on the panel just as Juan Williams is the token Liberal when he is on. Both are intolerable Leftist apologists for those of us who are center right. It is time for Fox to give up the tokenism and just give us a Conservative news channel. Let the Progressive Liberal anti-America Left create their own reality on PMSNBC or Clinton Noodle News
YES! Beckle is a anothre ignorant liberal and underestimates this outstanding conservative movement brought on by President Trump!
Trump will make things right as long as our republican friends in the hous and senate get their collective heads out of their butts and support his agenda!
Here's a list of CNN's conservative political contributors:
André Bauer, Glenn Beck, Amanda Carpenter, Lanhee Chen, S. E. Cupp, Ben Ferguson, Ari Fleischer, David Frum, Mary Katharine Ham, Hugh Hewitt, Margaret Hoover, Scottie Nell Hughes, Jack Kingston, Bill Kristol, Matt Lewis, Jeffrey Lord, Kevin Madden, Kayleigh McEnany, Jason Miller, Timothy Naftali, Ana Navarro, Katrina Pierson, Rick Santorum, Matt Schlapp, Tara Setmayer, J. D. Vance
Oh, right right. My bad. Every single conservative must drink the Trump punch.
People, I know you don't agree, but this is a healthy thing for our democracy. Fortunately for all of us -- and most importantly -- we live in a country where we have the freedom to openly voice our opinions. That right there is golden and we should never lose sight of that fact.
Excellent reply, John. Please don't wait for Corey's reply to you that will never, ever come. Come on, darnit, you used a FACT!!!! You know better than that, LOL.
And Corey, did you really just type that with a straight face or are you just funnin'!?
I agree that there are few but Doug Schoen comes to mind. He appeared on Fox a lot during the election period and he told it like he saw it regardless of any pushback. He was a devout Clinton supporter and said so but he would take her to task when he thought she deserved it, for instance, like over her "deplorable" statement. I've posted already that the difference between Bob and Juan IMO is marginal. When Juan goes off on his "POV" I grite my teeth. There has to be a liberal or two that could at least pretend to be well-adjusted!!
It's music to my soul reading the negative comments about Bob Beckel. His contribution to The Five was zero. What a mouth he has (had?). I agree with those who think that Juan Williams is a candy ass. He wouldn't know the truth if he tripped over it.
GEE EVERYONE! BOB BECKEL GOT FIRED.....AGAIN!!!! OK! ONE....TWO.....THREE.........AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Don't worry Bob! CNN WILL THROW YOU A ROPE!!! YOU DOPE!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! WHY AREN'T THEY ASKING FOR THAT TRANSCRIPT??????
A talk show should have the right and left sided opinions...because then one side becomes so polarized there is no coming back from it. a Talking point or subject should be considered an open wound in a way on a talk show.......and the talk should benefit that wound to close up and heal. or it can open it up further if the talk show doesnt make the ends meet so to speak.....I feel this is the POSITIVE side of a talk show and it would be most viewed by viewers. People want to hear good news and this would be the ultimate goal.....if the wound remains open, it festers to the point where it can eat the host alive...... what conservatives should do is ALWAYS keep an open mind on both sides of the track(liberals) and keep the good side open to the good that does for this country and our own people. As Americans we have to always look at the both sides of the coin...but if the other side is being obstinate and abusive....then other means may be necessary to calm the storm.
If we want to hear the other side, we can always flip to the leftist channel for some opinion. Every time Trump gives a speech or there is a big issue, I always look to see what kind of spin and criticism the lefty channels will put on it! I think of it keeping an eye on the opposition narrative. You have to do that so you can debunk their narrative!
I watch Beckel and juan, Neither can articulate a coherent thought. All they have is the daily democratic talking points. Beckel is way way past sencible, Juan constantly brings up old talking points that have long since been proven false. He should be the next to go. I dont mind a liberal, but not a blantantly lying one.
Another liberal democratic showing their real feelings and belief.....they in fact are the racist!! They hondle minority's and pretend to care just to get votes! This guy was a total blow hard ame the 5 show will be much better without him
The only thing I can say is, "WOW!" Beckel was the farther Left than Alan Colmes. I'm surprised Juan is still a Liberal after what NPR did to him, but I guess he's an old-fashioned Liberal from back when they had more tolerance. Beckel gave us a glimpse into the current take-no-prisoners attitude of today's Left. Maybe he needs to go back on drugs and alcohol
Hopefully this time they'll stick to it and keep him off air for good. I'd cringe every time he open his mouth to disrupt otherwise interesting discourse with his blurted nonsense. Give Fox some credit though. In their attempt to follow the "Fair and Balanced" slogan they have to bring in the Liberal side to their discussions. It would be best if they could find a truly intelligent and rational Liberal to promote good discourse but can you imagine just how tough it is to find an intelligent Liberal who could logically defend their ideology?? That would truly be impossible just by definition.
Beckel was an embarassment. The other hosts were always, ALWAYS, 5-6 times a show covering, changing the subject etc. to keep him from going over the line. Weather or not there is any substance to this particular incident, Beckel needed to go. If this incident actually happened the way it is reported, then that place must be a tinderbox of butt hurt, or looking to be butt hurt snowflakes. All looking to sue. The boys need to stop this suing crap. How did this IT guy get a lawyer so fast? Is there lawyers waiting outside on the street asking everyone as they exit if they want to sue FOX??? The other liberal Williams always screams like obnoxious tone in his voice, can't stand to listen to him. OOPS, he is black. Am I going to be sued?
i cant stand Bob Beckel and i am glad he got fired but i am also sick of all the people saying white people are racist if they say anything about a black person and a black person can say anything about a white person and that is all right too hell with this if a black can say stuff about a white then a white person can say what he wants to about a black to hell with fox news
Wow. Sounds like Beckel went on a bender, had a hangover and then lost it? It was hard to take this guy seriously which maybe is why they wanted him to represent liberals. He was never anything but annoying. The 'do as I say not as I do' policy could land him a job at the DNC. The kind of change that people are trying to bring about by "correcting" everybody and getting rid of them doesn't happen that way. It's called REACTING! It doesn't work. What does work, and I know this because I do it all the time, is to ignore the "bad" behavior and respond to people with love and charm. It doesn't work instantaneously but it really turns people around. These "victim" types want to believe that there are people out there living charmed lives because we're entitled. Ha! I overcame a lot during my life and I chose to become resilient! Make yourself "bulletproof" and the rest of the world will eventually want to join you.
I COULDN'T FIGURE WHY THEY BROUGHT THAT LIBERAL AMERICA HATING TURD BACK TO BEGIN WITH.SEE WHAT FAIR AND BALANCED GOT THEM? A LAW SUIT. KIND SIMILAR TO THE MUSLIM REFUGEE...TRY TO BE ALL P.C WITH THEM AND THEY'LL SLAUGHTER YOU EVERY TIME. KINDNESS NEVER GOES UNPUNISHED.
But,...but,...but,...Beckel IS a Liberal and an ego bigger than his abilities. Isn't his big claim to fame advising Walter Mondale, fer Christ Sake!! THAT should account for ....abso-freakin-lutely NOTHING! If that's his top-shelf resume enhancer, ...
I liked Bob Beckel because he made things interesting to say the least. Fox News is becoming unrecognizable to me and I may quit watching it altogether. A lawyer was hired rather quickly and it seems money can buy more than an apology.
Beckel is probably bewildered, because he has always loved to say his dad marched with MLK, got beaten up picketing with unions.... He felt like he had the cred to joke with a black man. But this guy wanted in on the lawsuit, so he had no problem throwing a fellow lib under the bus for $$$$$$$$ As much as Beckel bugs me, I do not believe for a minute he meant to do anything but josh with that guy. But $$$$$ trumps everything.
Conservative defense of Bob Beckel:
First, the rampant 'racism' pograms which are taking place have got to stop. Nobody can take a joke anymore. Eight years of Barry O'Bama have reversed 50 years of improving race relations in America. Fifty years ago, my girlfriend and I would have been constantly heckled publicly and I'd have heard the epithet, "N-lover" on a regular basis (more evidence of the narrative is that I can't even type the insult without being sensored). Ten years ago, our relationship wouldn't have raised an eyebrow. Now it's back to her being called a Jemimah when we're in her old neighborhood visiting her parents. Standing up against this is, to me, much more critical than applauding the departure of Bob Beckel.
Bob Beckel was probably leaving his office for some other reason, and joked, "It's because you're black". I mean, even the stupidest of the stupid wouldn't say that and mean it. Like Beckle or not, I can't see this coming out of a sincere racist motive.
As for his place on The Five, or elsewhere on FOX, I was for it. Like BIll Alexander used to say when pre-coating his canvas with 'magic white' paint, "You can't have dark without light". Contrast is highly useful. When people could hear Beckel's ridiculous liberal 'logic' (which rarely was logical), it could be compared against truth. Unlike CNN or MSNBC, with fake 'conservatives' like Joe Scarborough or Ana Navarro, FOX exposes the stupidity of the liberal agenda every day, and they should continue.
An insensitive remark is enough to fire Beckel. The liberals and the minorities have taken over Fox News. The Murdoch brothers are crapping in their pants because they will not defend any of their talent from attacks by million dollar women and minorities. While they are going in their pants, their stock is down in the toilet because they have eliminated much of their talent. If the stock is falling off of the ledge, think what will happen when they try to get audience and revenue for the next quarter. The board better do something about the Murdoch brothers or the company will lose more value in the market. I sold at 31. Maybe I will buy back at 21.
Thank God they finally got rid of that liberal crackhead. I can finally watch "The Five" again. Juan Williams is a Republican compared to Bob Beckel. He is slightly annoying sometimes, but he at least has his own opinions and doesn't echo CNN.......
Why did they ever re-hire the stupid bloated mouthy drunk in the first place? And really, how did a big fat-ass condominium on two legs ever get in front of the camera in the first place? Other than standing around in bright sunlight so others could be in his shadow and thus "Shaded" from the hot Sun, of what use is Magilla Gorilla junior here?
Since Beckel returned to Fox he has been brutal. He's a liberal zealot who supports everything liberal and progressive regardless of how destructive it is to the United States and the American people. He was always outspoken and more often than not insulting but he'a been way out of control since returning to Fox. He didn't just give his opinion he used a bully platform and acted like some guy on a street corner who was looking for a fight. He disrespected anyone that he didn't agree with, literally calling them names, screamed at them, yelled over them when they were trying to give their opinion after they had given him the courtesy of the time to express his opinion. He was so disgustingly ignorant to other members of The Five and any guests on that program and field journalists that at times they look shocked but they did respond to him and usually shut him up. It was more than time for him to go. Juan Williams has the same anti-American attitude the Beckel had but obviously Beckel has influenced Williams because he has become just as obnoxious and as much of a bully that Beckel is. So much for being a liberal. But one thing for sure is when Beckel was on and Juan Williams is on people change the channel they've had more than enough of both of them.
I thoroughly disagreed with Bob's politics and he was definitely a "salty old dog", but he definitely added spice and banter on The Five. The addition of Jesse Waters was great, and it was like watching father and son duke it out on a nightly basis. They did not fire Jesse Waters for his (highly doubtful) alleged comments about his supposed oral sex comments about Ivanka Trump and her microphone (the whole thing was patently ridiculous). No one outside of Fox employees knows what Bob said, and more than likely it was something off the cuff and inappropriate. I do not condone racism by any means, but buck up and grow a pair. Are you so damaged by what he said that you cannot work it out between the two of you instead of running whining all the way to the overpaid desk jockeys in Human Resources? I would never get hired even at McDonald's if I was punished for every inappropriate, off the cuff remark I have made, as would most of us realists. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Hell, Fox pretty much killed its founder, Roger Ailes. Again, I do not condone sexual harrassment, but if someone did that to me I would not sue them, I would kick them in the nuts and make their life a living hell. I am no wallflower and do not like anyone else fighting my battles. It does not make me a better person to drag someone through the mud. Bob Becker set a good example in that he talked openly about his past problems with sobriety and proved to many out there struggling with addiction that you can get sober and come back.
Kimberly, I am pretty tough myself and when something goes wrong I begin with trying to resolve the issue in an informal and open way. That said, when I went the nonlitigating route, my tires were slashed, sugar was put in my gas tank, all the car windows were smashed out by the perpetrator. What other choice did I have? Most employers have a mediation process to allow parties in conflict to resolve the issues before it gets to litigation as one of the steps to be taken.
In regards to Becker, he was a complete d***. He spoke his mind about a lot of things. When watching The Five, I'd almost have a stroke listening to some of the things liberal Bob said! But, when he was gone the first time, I missed him on the show...i know that sounds crazy! I truly am having a hard time believing Becker would insult a black man. Beckel was all for black civil rights, I am doubting the accuracy of this story.
Bob Beckel is a good progressive/liberal...how could he be racist? In my experience, most progressives are indeed racist. It goes beyond race, though. Most of them think they are above, better, and worth more than just about everyone else. They are the intelligent ones...the gifted ones...put here on earth to help the rest of us lowly creatures and take care of us. Beckel is a posterboard progressive...through-and-through...who represents the reality of progressive character as seen in this article. Glad his true colors are shining through for all to see. Good riddance, Bobby-boy.
I am not a Bob Beckel fan nor do I have any idea what he said. The termination may be justified. However, if he apologized that probably should have been accepted and the matter closed. I get a bit tired of people getting offended at trivial things and turning them into a big racial deal. Is that what happened here? I don't know, but I hope not. If so, the offended employee is as much to blame as Beckel. We should presume nothing without all the details.
I didn't care for Bob's point of view on issues either, but this fluff about saying something 1 time you shouldn't have, is reason to lose your job? Those of you that think so are buying into all this political correctness. Everyone needs to grow up and realize that no one is perfect. People say things you don't like...so what...ignore them and realize they are being jerks in the moment.
@4charlie I agree! I too, rarely agree with Juan Williams, But I do think he is a nice person and I honestly believe he is friendly with the entire staff he works with. BOOB Beckel on the other hand seems to be quite a bitter old man. He is unable to enunciate, or articulate a thought clearly w/o profanity or rudeness. I am not sad to see him go.
Why is this a surprise? Beckel is a sarcastic loudmouth full of hate, he's a liberal (hypocrisy personified), and a Democrat. As Walter Williams writes, the Democrats have been enraged ever since the Republicans took their slaves away.
It is a testimonial to the thoroughness of Democrat propaganda that blacks continue to vote for the party that defended slavery, started the Civil War, opposed Reconstruction and imposed segregation, engaged in lynchings, opposed the civil rights acts of the '50's and '60's, blocked desegregation of Little Rock schools and defied Brown vs. Board of Education (Orville Faubus), brought the Ku Klux Klan to the White House with racist movies (Woodrow Wilson), set dogs loose on black demonstrators (Bull Connor), and blocked blacks from the U. of Alabama and vowed "segregation forever" (George Wallace).
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was filibustered by Democrats for 75 days until the Republicans broke the filibuster. It took until 1935 before a black representative was elected by Democrats, after hundreds had been elected by Republicans to southern state legislatures, and 22 blacks had already been elected to congress by Republicans by 1900. Democrats do nothing for black America - because they know they have their votes anyway.
That goes a long way towards explaining the plight of black America and its sacrifice on the altar of Democrat pandering to illegals - their next voting bloc - to the economic detriment of the black community. And we're surprised Beckel is racist? I'm not.