He followed that up with this after being asked what might be wrong with the models:There are two conceivable explanations — and neither is very pleasant for us. The first possibility is that less global warming is occurring than expected because greenhouse gases, especially CO2, have less of an effect than we have assumed. This wouldn't mean that there is no man-made greenhouse effect, but simply that our effect on climate events is not as great as we have believed. The other possibility is that, in our simulations, we have underestimated how much the climate fluctuates owing to natural causes."OR ANOTHER EXPLANATION - The entire thing is made of lies meant to enforce the transfer of wealth from successful countries to buffer up the countries that cling to socialist ideologies that are known deadends, and to continue the socialist climb towards the future failure of a one world government. <---------THIS explanation is the geniune reason for the Climate Change lies...
Apparently the scientists have decided that mankind can (A) continue to breathe freely without fear of overconsumption, (B) cows may fart en masse without having to pay for carbon offset credits per herd and (C) perhaps the basic models being used for their calculations are wrong (ya think).
My prediction: 100 years from now there will still be oxygen in the air but i can hope there will be fewer boneheaded scientific rypes.
While waiting for a movie to start, fake scientist al gore was touting his new movie. Even the trailer was a real laugh. Too much drama and very little fact. We should be more than thankful that our pres was smart enough to wak away from the Paris accord, aka deal. That bill was to be spent by our country to pay for other countries mishandling of their own evironment, whether it be water, land or air. After all, it certainly wasn't us that screwed their mess. BTW I really doubt China, who spews more crap into the air than any other country, will live up to cleaning up their mess by 2030. After all, their favorite son, obama, is no longer pres.
Al Gore went to see his doctor to see if anything could be done about his excessive flatulence:
AG: Doc, I've been farting a lot lately but they don't stink or make noise.
DR: Well, first thing we're gonna do is check your hearing, then we're gonna check your sense of smell.
If you can sell a commodity that can’t be seen, touched, smelt or tasted, it’s going to breed corruption of the worst kind. Promoting AGW theory is now a big business with too much money tied up in it for the alarmists to just walk away and they are not going to let the facts get in the way of a good horror story and the obscene profits they will reap if they can keep the AGW fraud alive.
The 'FATAL FLAW' is that these "scientists" have tried to convince the rest of us is that "THE SCIENCE is SETTLED................", REAL science is NEVER "SETTLED"!
"GLOBAL WARMING" is one of, if not the MOST, hoaxes perpetrated on gullible people the worls over.
I AM glad to see Karma catching AlGore in his enormous LIE!!!!
Al Gore has become a galizionaire with his phoney climate change agenda which he has fostered on 'some' (too many fools). Our President refused to accede to the Paris accord which was another unfounded climate change debacle, where once again the United States was being screwed. Isn't it wonderful to have a president who dares to call a spade a spade and all of you who do not agree with him on this subject, send your contribution directly to the climate accord in Paris.
The heat is coming from the core in the form of hot oil. An example would be Prudhoe Bay Oil Field. The oil coming out of the ground is 145 degrees and moved by a pipe line to Valdez, Alaska. It takes 2 days and arrives @ 53 degrees releasing 92 dgrees of heat into the atmosphere. There are over 800 miles of pipe line in Alaska. Worldwide there are hundreds of thousands of miles of pipe lines doing the same 24/7. The core is as hot as the sun and approx. 22 miles under our feet. That is where the heat is coming from. Not CO2, not the sun ( 194 million miles ) but from the core. No one is looking at this.
Nice try, Fred, but no cigar. Even if it amounted to something, that heat is still the result of bringing up oil for use. Is Iceland, with all its thermal energy, a world heat polluter? The lengths polluters and dirty energy apologists go to explain their greed are extreme, but they have no science to back up the wild theories. Unfortunately, the average American is science illiterate and believes this bunk.
Wow, that's probably one of the most rediculous theories I've heard, and I've heard a lot.
The residual heat coming off of those pipes is nothing compared the amount of heat transfered into the air from the millions of air conditioners, or the millions of combustion engines (well over 145 degrees) driving across millions of highway miles.
Every day, radiation from the sun heats the surface of the earth many, many degrees more than any other source. It's pretty constant in it's energy output, but it's not completely static.
Instead of looking at all of these completely unpredictable souces of climate change that don't seem to follow any predictable model, why don't we look at the only source of warming that makes the giant affect on climate every single day? The answer is in the sun, and how much of its radiation reaches us.
This is the time to press these scientists. Why 100 years when 10 years ago you were saying these things would happen by now? What is the scientific breakthrough that now gives you the ability to predict 100 years from now, when you haven't shown the ability to predict 10 years from now? Where is the research? Where are the studies and peer reviews around this sudden, new found, yet to be explained discovery?
The poorly educated and agenda-driven politicos don't seem to be able to understand science. When your main goal is to make money and usurp power, well then, science is often seen as an obstacle to the truth you want to project. As data arrives, scientists change their theories and expected outcomes. It's no surprise that having gathered more recent data the very long term outlook is subject to change. I'd rather go with the best scientific projections available today than a Koch brothers profit goal reached by undue influence of national policy. That goes for environmental protection as well. If you like the prospect of letting your kids imbibe more lead, mercury, carbon black, sulfur and nitrogen oxides and ozone just keep voting for the profiteers who suppress pollution regulations.
As for Kruiser, who wrote this "opinion piece", he is a great example of a science-phobic, tea party, right-wing apologist who gets his jollies by pandering to the semi-literate. The base of his chosen movement was seeded with hidden funds and activists supported by the Koch brothers for power, profit and influence. The brothers are cunning and devious and generally alter policy through operatives funded by their many foundation gifts.
Citation: Mayer, Jane. 2016. Dark money: the hidden history of the billionaires behind the rise of the radical right.
Robert H. Guess you have not looked up how the Koch boys spend their political cash. A mere drop goes to democrats. Jane Mayer does her research and gathers facts easily verified in the extensive citations at the back of her book. Comments like yours, which can not be substantiated, are what sustain the willfully uninformed who get suckered by the tea party, Trump gang and other capitalist oligarchs not interested in the average American.
The top Contributers to political campaigns (2014) Was (#1) Tom Steyer & Kat Taylor (D) $74,300,000. David Koch (and his wife) (R) $6,200,000 (#10), Charles Koch (and wife) $2,300,000 (#29) (R). The largest contributors tend to be Democrat.
Well, One2Stupid, I would say that all sides spend too much to influence those who are easily influenced by activities designed to secure a vote. The numbers you refer to are just the ones that are reported through "legally required" channels. By self-admission Charles Koch said he planed to spend $750 million in the 2016 election cycle. The Kochs tend to place money in foundations that fund other foundations which obscures where the funds go. It's everything from funding policy centric professorial chairs at colleges teaching conservative viewpoints to paying for field operatives that whipped up tea party foment where there was actually none before the operatives landed. The whole election system is hopelessly in the hands of those with money who can actually coerce votes out of the woodwork by saturation advertising and slick videos. It's ugly and it's not the America I want.
Stephen is on to something here. The only problem is the elitist have corrupted the language to the point you cannot make a precise point. The current cooling trend will now spark the new ICE AGE fear, and when that fails it will be back to the melted polar regions. We need to see that the whole thing is driven by the desire for power on the part of the elitist. Fear and the lack of understanding are the tools they use to get the populous to give them power for a little of the security that was there all along.
I often mention to these alarmists, the Medieval warm period. Where it was so warm the Norse were able to settle Greenland and grow crops there, which isn't even possible today. That period lasted 300 years and didn't destroy the world or the coral reefs etc. I guess people just love being afraid of something. If there isn't some crisis then they are not happy. 0_o
Mark Twain's generation opined that everybody complains about the weather but nobody does anything about it. The eternal constant for them was just wait a bit and it will change. They certainly didn't tax people and scare little children with ill informed predictions depicted little polar bears on ice flows crying for their dead moms. It took the Holy St Algore patron of global warming to blame humankind for doing all that devastation by too big a carbon footprint. Holy St Algore, meanwhile used more energy flitting about in his Jet than the USAF/MAC during the cold war. Enough already.
Al Gore + his opinion = Global warming. Actually though, the globalists will keep on harping. This will be their way of controlling populations in the future. After all, humans consume oxygen and expel carbon dioxide. Therefore, if ones' country has too many people, the globalists can simply say, XYZ country must reduce their population as XYZ country is producing too much carbon dioxide from people. Seriously though, can someone please tell them to just plant a tree which I heard somewhere, loves carbon dioxide, quite putting down so much cement and blacktop, and finally the deforestation could be cut back a little.
Anti science climate alarmists won't come and debate the real scientists who use real data after an invitation from Scott Pruitt of the EPA who wanted to hear both sides of the story. The scientists said they be thrilled the Gore's of the world so far have declined. And to that fact a group of Congressmen tried to pass a bill to make it illegal for the scientists who know it's not true to even speak without being jailed. That's not suspicious at all.
I have a degree in printing technology, earned back in 1970. I could have told you that. It is and it always has been a scheme to tax us and deprive us of what we have. Trump is from my era. Schooling back then taught us to look at the facts and make up our minds based on the information we gathered. Nowadays, some "professor" forces his/her opinion on a bunch of gullible spoiled teenagers, and now the sky is falling. Educators need to get back to the basics, and teach facts, not their liberal agendas.
I'm always amused by how much time and energy people spend talking about the weather. They're glued to their radars and weather reports, that are many times wrong predicting rain. You go outside and it's sunny and you say "I'm going to the beach and then somebody says, the weather report says 50% chance of rain, you'd better be careful". Laughable that people plan their entire lives activities around such things or, at least, try. The next day they say it will be sunny, but all the sudden you have a thunder storm. This is what I do, I step outside, look at the sky, and determine from what I see with my own God-given senses, what the weather is like. No TV for 14 years and I haven't missed a single day. Keep staying glued to the set for all your informational lies, or even the internet for that matter...but hey, at least it gives those crazy weather people jobs and voices to folks like Kaitlyn Jenner, who can't figure out what gender they are, but think they should run for senate. The crazy mold has been broken...it's been broken for a while.
Does anyone remember Rachel Carson's hysterical, Leftist doomsday tome: Silent Spring (published in 1962)? She warned the public over the harmful effects of DDT on the environment (ergo, "Silent Spring" wherein we'd no longer hear birds because supposedly they'd all be dead).
Yet who warned the Africans and other tropical Third Nations that millions of their babies would be dying from Malaria and other mosquito-borne illnesses because DDT would subsequently be banned to save the "environment."
Rachel Carson was the original doomsday huckster a la Al Gore. Making future claims to which they can never be held to account. What a gig.
One knows it's a lie, when the the alarmists get infuriated because one doubts their word, they
have no true facts to back up their theory (lies) so they try to put into law that you have to believe
or suffer the consequences. While the fat cats, al gore and the likes rake in the dough & @ the same time brings us closer to a 1 world government. Their facts are nothing but a bunch of hype
and we better get wize to it, and start speaking out or get used to living in a 3rd world country.
God Bless America!!!!
I was introduced to the theory over 55 years ago in school as a coming ICE AGE, 30 years later it became global warming, neither worked so now we have climate change, guess what it didn't work either. The totally disturbing thing to me is that this bundle of dung has never been explained as what it actually is, A COMPUTER ENHANCED THEORY, it is not backed up by any facts [ except those enhanced & adjusted to meet the standards needed to promote the theory] Again folks one volcanic eruption can put out more of the so called green house gases in a few seconds than man has produced in his history.