The House Judiciary Committee’s first impeachment hearing began on Wednesday with four constitutional scholars arguing whether President Donald Trump’s dealings with Ukraine could be considered an impeachable offense.
The comments did not sit well with Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan, one of the four witnesses, who testily responded that her views were informed by the facts laid out during weeks of open hearings held by the House Intelligence Committee.
“Everything I know about our constitution and its values and my review of the evidentiary record and here, Mr. Collins, I would like to say to you, sir, that I read transcripts of every one of the witnesses who appeared in the live hearing,” Karlan said.
Watch her comments below:
Stanford Law School's Pamela Karlan: "When Pres. Trump invited—indeed, demanded—foreign involvement in our upcoming election, he struck at the very heart of what makes this a 'republic.'"— ABC News (@ABC) December 4, 2019
"That demand…constituted an abuse of power." https://t.co/T7ONhXv599 #ImpeachmentHearings pic.twitter.com/AJT1ewdCTM
Karlan said she would not make flippant statements regarding the merits of impeachment, adding that she found the charge that she did not care about facts to be “insulting.”
“Because I would not speak about these things without reviewing the facts so, I’m insulted by the suggestion that, as a law professor, I don’t care about those facts.”
She added that she felt the depositions proved that Trump “demanded” Ukrainian officials interfere in the 2020 presidential election. That, she said, “struck at the very heart of what makes this a republic.”
“But everything I read on those occasions tells me that when President Trump invited, indeed demanded, foreign involvement in our upcoming election, he struck at the very heart of what makes this a republic to which we pledge allegiance.”
Karlan said Trump’s actions constitute an abuse of power and are worthy of impeachment.