Jeff Flake Is Willing to Toss 2020 Win to Democrats If Trump Is Republican Nominee: ‘Look at the Long Term’

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Former Republican Sen. Jeff Flake is not shy of his criticism toward President Donald Trump, and he’s explaining how he’d rather toss the 2020 presidential win to a Democrat than let Trump see a second term.

At the Intelligence Squared debate in New York on Thursday, Flake delivered a scathing rebuke of the president.

“Are you willing to lose a cycle for the Republican Party because of the principles that you’re arguing?” moderator John Donvan asked Flake.

“Oh yes, yes,” Flake answered.

When asked what should happen if Trump is the Republican nominee, Flake said, “You sacrifice a generation, and you think, ‘Man, we might get some policy goals in the next year or two.'”

“Look at the long term. Look at the long term, at what you’re doing for the party, because people don’t want to be associated with it,” Flake added.

“It’s not to say that we want the Democrat elected, I’d like another Republican elected. But if we continue and go with President Trump, I think, that Republican principles, conservative principles will be damaged more in the long run by having President Trump with a second term than they would by limiting him to a first term.”

New York Times columnist Bret Stephens also joined Flake on the idea of not wanting Trump as the Republican nominee in 2020.

However, former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach and Peek showed their support for Trump.

“No other Republican can possibly win if Donald Trump is nominated,” writer Liz Peek said in response to Flake. “… The list of people considering running at this point, they have no purchase whatsoever in the Republican Party.”

Flake, a frequent critic of Trump, also rebuked the idea that Trump is the only Republican candidate that can garner the votes, calling it “fallacy.”

“We would certainly like it to be a Republican,” Flake said. “And this notion — this narrative that’s been built up, that Donald Trump is the only one that can cobble together the electoral college and win is just a fallacy.”

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As for the 2020 presidential election, there is a long list in the Democratic presidential field who don’t seem to be doing much to separate themselves. Several of their campaign websites make it hard for voters to understand what the candidates’ policies even are because they lack actual policy pages, as IJR Red reported.

As for Trump, he’s been setting himself apart from other candidates since his 2016 election, especially with his “Promises Kept” section of his campaign website.

[Correction: 3/29/19, 4:23 p.m.]: A previous version of this story incorrectly identified the state in which the debate took place. We have corrected the error.

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Jayne Deering
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Trump has a 95% approval rating among republicans. Flake/Stephens don’t seem to grasp that the vast majority of us are TRUMP supporters – not republicans. There really isn’t a difference between republicans and democrats (they both suck equally, just +/- on different things).

You viciously opposed Trump, and the people’s will along with it. We chose HIM, not you. If you continue down this path, you’ll lose the presidency in the biggest landslide in history. For decades.

Phyllis Softa
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The Promises Kept section of the campaign website is downright hilarious. Save for a day when you need a good laugh. Thanks, Madison.

General Confusion
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It’s so easy to get confused when living in an Idiocracy.

Phyllis Softa
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As Flake points out, it’s damaged the Republican party for a generation. The fear, anger, conspiracy strategy works well on a generation that doesn’t concern themselves with the future consequences to the Party or the COUNTRY. The % of electorate registered as Republican DECREASED from 29% in 2016 to 24% today. Dem & Independent registration INCREASED. The face of Republican Party is Trump VOTERS. They have LOWERED the bar for future POTUS. They OWN that.

banstan
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“As Flake points out, it’s damaged the Republican party for a generation.” First you tell us all here how much you watch cnn (then, as per your normal MO, you deny it) and now jeff flake is an expert to listen to. You need to aim higher for you expert opinions.

Phyllis Softa
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LOL, Flake’s quote is in Madison’s article & the video she provided. What does it have to do with CNN & WHY would I DENY watching CNN? I “listen” to FOX & Friends each morning while I eat breakfast with my husband. I watch/listen to C-SPAN, CNN, MSNBC. & CNBC. I also like ME TV–Perry Mason, MASH, Columbo. I enjoy HGTV–I’m currently making the decisions on remodeling my bathroom. When I am in my car, I listen to POTUS on Sirius Radio. I am an open book.

banstan
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It’s so funny NOW your horizons have expanded. Your seem to forget your earlier comments. Fox, until now, has NEVER been part of your tv nourishment. You really are a TRUE liberal. Say whatever you need to say at any given time and expect everyone to forget your earlier comments.

Phyllis Softa
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If you didn’t see the posts, it doesn’t mean they do not exist? Please feel free to click on my profile, then comments. IJR allows you access to review them. I have repeatedly disclosed that my husband is still a Repub, a Trump supporter, & an avid FOX & Newsmax viewer. Even that he is a big fan of Howie Carr televised radio show. FOX & Newsmax are not MY selections, but that does not mean they are not on while I am home. A center left Dem is an accurate description.

banstan
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Since you NEVER made the posts means they don’t exist. Your husband is NOT YOU. just because you say fox is on at home DOESN’T mean you listen to it. You’ve contradicted your viewing habits MANY times here.

Phyllis Softa
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Were you thinking I live in Hearst Castle? I live in a modestly sized home. Were you thinking my husband & I live separate lives in the same house? How do I eat breakfast with my husband and not hear the kitchen TV on FOX & Friends. How do I workout in our gym without hearing the TV in the gym? How would I fall asleep in the same bed and not hear the bedroom TV? Have you ever been happily married? It is what happily married folks do.

Phyllis Softa
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LOL, ban, I should not be relying upon state reported totals for demographics of the electorate? Were you thinking I should look to Trump, who claimed Mexico would pay for the wall? Hannity, who claimed Seth Rich was responsible for the hacking of the DNC? FOX News that called El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras “Mexican countries”?? I enjoy reading your posts BUT I will select my own sources to rely upon. Thanks, anyway.

banstan
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Can I type YAWN big enough???

Phyllis Softa
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The IJR format will only produce your YAWN in the set font sizes of upper & lower case. –Perhaps you should have asked for an exemption.

banstan
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You are just plain FULL OF SHIT, philly. nothing more, nothing less. How you bring Seth rich into THIS is hysterical. Once again your comment proves you live in “the middle ground between light and shadow.”

Phyllis Softa
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You appear to want me to join you in the use sources that have repeatedly been proven untrustworthy. If you wish to overlook the Death panels No Go Zones, Stand down orders. Seth Rich hacked the DNC. Obama is coming for your guns. Obamacare is socialized medicine–then go for it. That is the beauty of America. You can be played for a fool as many times as YOU allow it. I don’t allow God given common sense to go to waste.

banstan
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Your undue sense of superior intellect comes through AGAIN! You are the easiest book I’ve EVER read. Seth Rich has NOTHING to do with this article.

Phyllis Softa
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One does not require superior intellect to recognize when you are played for a fool. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.” In FOX’s case that is time and time again. Common sense tells you what is & what is not a reliable source. Ignoring the “Mexico will pay for the wall” “Seth Rich gave the DNC emails to Wikileaks” or “Obamacare is socialized medicine” does NOT make them disappear. That should be the easiest book you ever read.

banstan
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“Ignoring the “Mexico will pay for the wall” “Seth Rich gave the DNC emails to Wikileaks” or “Obamacare is socialized medicine”, so you CHOOSE to live in the past and be an ANCHOR instead of moving FORWARD? Your VERY OLD talking points are just THAT, VERY OLD.

Phyllis Softa
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LOL…So that’s how you explain forgiving FOX for the many times they played you for a fool? You simply refuse to acknowledge it & move FORWARD—I was expecting you to go with the broken clock analogy. Please tell me that forget and move forward is not your strategy with employers & friends. You deserve to be treated better than a doormat.

banstan
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“One does not require superior intellect to recognize when you are played for a fool.” THANK YOU, once again, for letting all of know how much smarter you are than us. I’m willing to bet that your so-called conservative husband (we ONLY have YOUR word on that) doesn’t even sleep in the same room as you because there is NOT enough room for you, YOUR EGO and your husband.

Phyllis Softa
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My husband wants to take you up on the bet. I would NOT call my husband a “conservative” TODAY. He’s fine with Trump’s tariffs & $11B subsidies to the farmers that have been hurt, so he isn’t for FREE MARKETS. He is no longer concerned with the growing deficit, so he isn’t for FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. He was opposed to ANY investigation of member of Trump campaign, so he isn’t for LAW & ORDER–BUT He wants Hillary investigated. So, I would call him a Trumpster, not conservative. .

Phyllis Softa
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Not following your logic. I am full of sh-t because I recognize when someone is attempting to play me for a fool and you prefer to be played for a fool BUT not reminded? FOX has operated on another of Rod Sterling’s theory. Prejudice is the single evil of our time. Man’s need to dislike someone other than himself is met every day with providing a target for that hate. I prefer to practice the Christian teaching of loving one another, not looking for an outlet for hatred & anger.

banstan
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Funniest comment ever. YOU are so full of it. Keep typing for your OWN pleasure, philly. I bet you get a HUGE sense of self-satisfaction from EVERY post you make.

banstan
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” I prefer to practice the Christian teaching of loving one another”. Your comments PROVE otherwise.

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