
Environmental Protection Agency administrator Lee Zeldin fired back at Democratic Connecticut Rep. Rosa DeLauro on Monday while she tried to lecture him on climate change.
During a House Appropriations Committee hearing, DeLauro accused the EPA of âabandoningâ its duty to protect Americans from climate change â which she alleged was âflooding our streets, poisoning our airââ though Zeldin challenged the premise that the agency is responsible for fighting global climate warming. When Zeldin challenged DeLauro to explain the significance of a major Supreme Court case and the major policies doctrine, she refused.
âFollowing the law, section 202 of the Clean Air Act, where does it say anything about fighting global climate change?â Zeldin asked. âLoper Bright , Supreme Court case, youâre familiar with it? ⌠But thatâs really important. As a member of Congress, Loper Bright says that we as an agency donât have the authority to get creative.â
âNo, but you donât have, excuse me, you do not have the right to say climate change does not exist, that itâs a hoax,and thatâs where this administration is coming from,â DeLauro said.
âDo you know what Loper Bright is? Do you know what the major policies doctrine is? You know what the major policies doctrine is? Youâre a member of Congress, you should know,â Zeldin said.
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Loper Bright, a landmark 2024 Supreme Court ruling, significantly limited the power of federal agencies to interpret their own regulatory authority and eliminated a requirement that courts defer to agenciesâ interpretations of laws. The major policies doctrine restricts agencies from acting on major policy issues without authorization from Congress.
Zeldin also challenged DeLauro to explain another Supreme Court ruling West Virginia v. EPA, which was released in June 2022. In this case, the Court limited the EPAâs ability to regulate power plantsâ emissions of greenhouse gasses.
âYouâre here because you need money from us, so halt for the second, and wait for the questions, and answer the questions,â DeLauro said, visibly angry.
âWell, I answered your question, and you didnât like my answer because you donât know what Loper Bright is, because you donât know what the major policies doctrine is. Because youâre asking me about section 202 of the Clean Air Act, and you donât read it,â Zeldin said. âYou donât know what it says. No, I actually read the law. I do my homework. Youâre just somebody who likes to have the microphone on. You know what I have to do? I read the law. I read the Supreme Court cases.â
DeLauro accused Zeldin of making up âa whole lot of BS.â
âBS? You think I made up these cases?â Zeldin asked.
âYeah, I think you have made up a whole lot of BS,â DeLauro said.Â
âI made up Loper Bright. I made up West Virginia v. EPA. I made up Michigan v. EPA,â Zeldin said sarcastically, referring to a 2015 Supreme Court ruling that also limited the agencyâs power.Â
Zeldin stated on X that DeLauro was infuriated because she entered a debate with someone âwho actually knows what they are talking about, reads federal statute and adheres to Supreme Court precedent.â
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