Shortly after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) denied that she hates Trump or that impeachment was driven by anything other than the facts, Schiff sat down with Glasser to discuss the impeachment inquiry.
When Glasser asked if Schiff hates the president, he said he doesn’t like what Trump is doing to the country.
“No. but I do hate what he is doing to the country.”
While Pelosi maintained that “the facts are uncontested” in the case against Trump, Schiff notes that Trump and his supporters are launching an “attack on truth” by raising questions about what hours of depositions and hearings have proven about the president’s conduct.
“This attack on truth has always seemed to me the most corrosive to our democracy, the idea that there’s no such thing as fact anymore. Given you have witnesses, [who] say there was a quid pro quo, and then members [who] hear that would say, ‘no one is saying there is a quid pro quo.’ It’s, like, Did you just hear what the witness said?”
Schiff attacked Jonathan Turley, the lone witness in the House Judiciary Committee’s hearing this week to argue against impeachment, over his record defending a judge in a 2010 impeachment trial. The judge was impeached and convicted, which led Schiff to question Turley’s track record.
“And on all four counts, the judge was convicted, and on all four Turley said there was no impeachable crime here, so his track record is less than perfect.”
He also slammed Turley for arguing that Trump’s decision to take Congressional subpoenas to the Supreme Court does not constitute obstruction of Congress.
“What Turley is arguing on behalf of the Administration is you should allow the President’s obstruction to succeed. And that’s not a particularly powerful argument when the President continues to solicit foreign interference in our election,” Schiff said, adding, “You could not have a more open-and-shut case of obstruction of Congress.”
Schiff admitted that there could be more evidence to be gleaned in the impeachment case, one of the reasons Turley has advocated against impeachment, “there may very well be a great body of evidence at the trial that’s not available to us today.”
But, citing concerns about the integrity of the upcoming presidential election, Schiff defended the pace of impeachment.
“They made it clear, ‘No, you subpoena [John] Bolton, he’s going to sue you, and this will be tied up indefinitely in the courts.’ The long and the short of it is, though, given that the President is today trying to get foreign interference in the next election to help him, we do not feel that, when we already have overwhelming evidence, we should wait any longer.”
At the end of the interview, Schiff suggested that Trump only cares about “what’s in it for him personally.”
“The President doesn’t give a sh*t about what’s good for our country, what’s good for Ukraine. It’s all about what’s in it for him personally and for his re-election campaign.”
The House Judiciary Committee could draft articles of impeachment and recommend them to the full House as early as December 12.Published in