Trump Drops Census Citizenship Question, Vows to Get Data from Government

U.S. President Donald Trump retreated on Thursday from adding a contentious question on citizenship to the 2020 census, but insisted he was not giving up his fight to count how many non-citizens are in the country and ordered government agencies to mine their databases.

Trump’s plan to add the question to the census hit a roadblock two weeks ago when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against his administration, which had said new data on citizenship would help to better enforce the Voting Rights Act, which protects minority rights.

The court ruled, in considering the litigation by challengers, that the rationale was “contrived.” Critics of the effort said asking about citizenship in the census would discriminate against racial minorities and was aimed at giving Republicans an unfair advantage in elections by lowering the number of responses from people in areas more likely to vote Democratic.

Trump, a Republican, and his supporters say it makes sense to know how many non-citizens are living in the country.

“We will utilize these vast federal databases to gain a full, complete and accurate count of the non-citizen population, including databases maintained by the Department of Homeland Security and the Social Security Administration. We have great knowledge in many of our agencies,” Trump said in remarks in the White House Rose Garden on Thursday. “We will leave no stone unturned,” he said.

Trump said he was not reversing course.

“We are not backing down on our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population,” he said.

But there could be more legal challenges ahead for the administration because the U.S. Constitution states that every person living in the country should be counted to determine state-by-state representation in Congress and that is done every 10 years in the Census, not by other means.

“We will vigorously challenge any attempt to leverage census data for unconstitutional redistricting methods,” said Michael Waldman, president of the Brennan Center for Justice, a law and policy institute at the NYU School of Law.

Waldman said his group would also challenge “any administration move to violate the clear and strong rules protecting the privacy of everyone’s responses, including the rules barring the use of personal census data to conduct law or immigration enforcement activities.”

IMMIGRATION POLICIES

Trump, who has made hard-line policies on immigration a feature of his presidency and his campaign for re-election in 2020, said he was ordering every government agency to provide the Department of Commerce with all requested records regarding the number of citizens and non-citizens. The U.S. Census Bureau is part of the Commerce Department.

“That information will be useful for countless purposes, as the president explained in his remarks today,” U.S. Attorney General William Barr said in a statement.

Barr cited a legal dispute on whether illegal immigrants can be included for determining apportionment of congressional districts. “Depending on the resolution of that dispute, this data may possibly prove relevant. We will be studying the issue.”

The approach announced by Trump on Thursday was similar to the one proposed by a Census Bureau official to Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, according to a memorandum made public by congressional Democrats in 2018. It said the costs of adding a citizenship question to the Census would be high, but using existing administrative records would not.

Opponents called Thursday’s decision a defeat for the administration, but promised they would look closely to determine the legality of Trump’s new plan to compile and use citizenship data outside of the census.

Rights groups in citizenship-question lawsuits in federal courts in New York and Maryland have no plans to abandon the litigation, Sarah Brannon of the American Civil Liberties Union Voting Rights Project, and John Yang, president of Asian Americans Advancing Justice, said on a conference call with reporters.

They also see potential for future litigation over the Trump administration’s collection of data, as well as how those data are used in state redistricting.

“We will sue as necessary,” Brannon said.

The Census is also used to distribute some $800 billion in federal services, including public schools, Medicaid benefits, law enforcement and highway repairs.

(Reporting by Jeff Mason and David Shepardson; additional reporting by Roberta Rampton, Doina Chiacu, Makini Brice and Eric Beech in Washington and Andrew Chung and Lauren LaCapra in New York; Writing by Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Grant McCool and Leslie Adler)

Responses

  1. “Not wanting to count the citizens leads to believing that mental midgets think they could garner some votes from people who should not be voting.” Cherl

    If the Republican Party, both nationally and state-wide, didn’t have a definite agenda to gerrymander the country, to lopside elections in their favor, MAYBE I would have a different view. But we don’t have that luxury. The Republicans ARE trying to eliminate all opposition and that is a danger to any democracy, let alone ours.

    The census question is a related part of this agenda because, as stated by the chief architect of this idea AND a word-for-word copy of the advisor’s plan by the GOP, this is exactly what they are trying to do – affect the census data in their own favor. THAT is undemocratic.

    You can think up any excuse that you like for as to why the administration wants to add the citizen question, and maybe you will even convince yourself that they are right, but you can’t get away from the facts – the Republican Party is trying to do everything that it can to destroy our democracy in every way that they can. They have been doing this at least ever since Newt Gingrich came onto the scene.

    The key word in your quote above is “think”. I wish that a lot more IJR members here COULD think. To answer your repeated question, that is why I am here – to give the spark that ignites a firestorm of thinking. Unfortunately, too many confused brains here have been doused with fire retardant.

  2. Bravo to the president and his team for figuring a workaround to the obstructionist Congress and activist judges.

    Using existing government data will also be more accurate. People can always lie on the census.

    Boohoo to the Dims. It’s obvious their objections to the “citizenship question” were out of fear that they’d lose representation AND federal funds. The CBO estimates CA has at least five extra Congressional seats due to counting illegals. Their claims of racism and exclusion (being INCLUDED in an accounting is exclusionary?) are the same BS they always use.

    bonus: Leftist heads are imploding. The same humongous bureaucracy they ALWAYS want more of is now being used against them.

  3. Uh oh.
    The census tells us the staate’s populations fopr assignment of congressmen.
    Not knowing how many citizens are in a state and just going by total population will skew the assignment.
    Thanks a lot a-h roberts.

  4. This is no different than the ID question on voting. The Democrats want to cheat using illegals and also use illegals to take over the country by stuffing the House with reps from the large population centers and Illegal sanctuaries. It’s an old Democrat trick and then they accuse Republicans of trying to cheat by restricting minorities (the race card). It’s simple deflection which is a Democrat dirty trick.

  5. To guest Sam Robinson,

    The Enumeration Clause originally allowed ONE question. How many people live in your house?

    As our country’s needs and governance have grown more complex, more questions have been added. The founders did not envision the census being used to “cheat” for purposes of representation or government gimmes.

  6. Actually, the constitution says we must count everyone here freely. Illegals are not here freely, which is why they’re in the shadows. So anyone who thinks we can include them just voids their own argument.

    1. You don’t seem to have a firm grasp of your native tongue.

      1. You don’t seem to have a grasp of our Constitution. 14th Amendment, Section 2.

        Section 2.

        Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

  7. Democrats cannot win without cheating and using illegals that are on the Government tit is one of the best ways, of course dead people is also a ? based voter block.

  8. I will not answer the census if the citizenship question is not asked. If citizenship is racist, illegal, and un-American then I will not respond. If citizenship is no longer important then we no longer have a country and the government has no authority to rule except by the oppressive authority of the gun. FREEDOM!

    1. Who claims that citizenship is “racist, illegal, and un-American” or “no longer important”?!?!? Feel free to sit out the argumentation as well as the census.

    2. Unfortunately, if a lot of citizens sit out the census it could affect your representation in Congress. Just write American citizen on the census. This will get your point across without jeopardizing representation.

    3. Maybe we should answer it as honestly as they want. There 25 living in my household.

  9. Joe and General. Why are you here? Your silliness and anger convince no one to change their mind about President Trump. I am neither a white nationalist bigot nor a racist. Not wanting to count the citizens leads to believing that mental midgets think they could garner some votes from people who should not be voting.
    Perhaps this will actually post! Third time’s a charm.

  10. Joe and General. Why are you here? Your silliness and anger convince no one to change their mind about President Trump. I am neither a white nationalist bigot nor a racist. Not wanting to count the citizens leads to believing that mental midgets think they could garner some votes from people who should not be voting.

    Perhaps this will actually post. But I got real satisfaction just writing it.

    1. Cherl, your sentiments are admirable, but these two will never listen nor learn.

      I wonder if they are millenials? They appear to feel that their opinions, no matter how wrong, have consequence. It’s just like AOC and her ilk who believe that anything they say automatically has merit.

      1. I am amazed just to be able to open your reply. You’re most likely correct though. AOC and Harris are disrespectful. To disparage and attack a senior citizen and one from their own party is beyond being in civilized.

  11. I’m so happy with this man as president!!! Now how do I get them to change my SS to say SS on my statement. Federal benefit sounds like I’m getting a hand-out and 40+ years of hard work should say SS !!!!

    1. I’D SAY “Federal Benefit”goes along with the whole DemocRATs Socialism scheme…
      Government HAS NO MONEY….Only PRODUCERS put MONEY into Government.

  12. It appears that “Joe” and “General” are , to use a professional term, nuts!!! I am not a white nationalist bigot or a racist. Liberals throw those words around in an effort to convince themselves that it’s OK to hate Trump as well as anyone who supports him. Perhaps the Democrats are against actually counting people who live here hoping to parlay that decision into VOTES for the divisive Democrats.

    1. Cherl, having illegals counted represents power and money to them. They get Congressional seats and more of our tax dollars.

      Nuts is a “professional term”? Are you a mental health professional? Just kidding. I use “non-professional” terms to describe them, when I just plain do not ignore them. They, like a certain ranting, TDS-sufferer from PA are just not worth it.

    1. BUT the DOJ has not WHAT? The 2020 census forms are being printed. When your census form arrives jot a memo in the margin that you are a citizen.

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