Trump Says Military May Consider Discipline for Ousted Aide Vindman

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday the military may consider disciplining former National Security Council aide Alexander Vindman, who testified in Trump’s impeachment trial and was fired by the White House along with his twin brother.

Vindman, an Army lieutenant colonel, provided some of the most damaging testimony during an investigation by the U.S. House of Representatives of Trump’s dealings with Ukraine.

“We sent him on his way to a much different location and the military can handle him any way they want,” Trump said.

Asked if he was suggesting that Vindman face disciplinary action, Trump said that would be up to the military.

“If you look at what happened … they’re going to certainly, I would imagine, take a look at that,” Trump said.

Vindman, then the NSC’s top Ukraine expert, testified that Trump’s request for an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden, a potential Democratic political rival in the 2020 presidential election, and his son Hunter during a July phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was improper.

The call led to the Republican president being impeached in the Democratic-controlled House and later acquitted in the Republican-majority Senate.

“I obviously wasn’t happy with the job he did,” Trump said of Vindman. “First of all he reported a false call … what was said on the call was totally appropriate.”

Trump’s national security adviser, Robert O’Brien, said the president is entitled to have White House staffers who want to execute his policies and whom he has confidence in. O’Brien, speaking at the Atlantic Council think tank, said it was his decision that the Vindmans leave their White House jobs.

“We’re not a country where a group of lieutenant colonels can get together and dictate what the policy of the United States is,” O’Brien said.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper said in November that Vindman should not fear retaliation over his testimony. Esper said he had reinforced the “no retaliation” message in a conversation with the secretary of the Army.

Trump has repeatedly complained about Vindman’s testimony and called him insubordinate.

O’Brien said there was “absolutely no retaliation with respect to the Vindmans as far as impeachment goes.”

Vindman was escorted from the White House last week as was his twin brother, Yevgeny, who worked as a lawyer at the NSC and is also a lieutenant colonel.

(Reporting by Jeff Mason; additional reporting by Eric Beech; editing by Grant McCool, Sonya Hepinstall and Leslie Adler)

Responses

  1. Idiots like Phil will run their mouths about military protocol, but forget EXACTLY who the commander-in-chief is. This is the same demented thinking that believes military personnel will deploy nukes/F15s/missiles against US citizens.

    These morons talk about the military oath as if they know better. (I didn’t server and I do know better). This is part of the mental illness/delusion practiced by the Left. They even believe losers like Joe Biden and the Steelers have a chance at success.

    Delusion. Mental illness. Seriously deficient people a more REALISTIC nation would simply not allow to vote.

  2. fun facts about the overstuffed sausage masquerading as a Lt. Col:
    -His twin brother (also a Lt. Col.) also served in the NSC. (coincidence? Nepotism? It smells.)
    -This Vindman already has/had three job offers from Ukraine. Conflict of interest?
    -Vindman was reportedly upset because the president (his boss) did NOT follow a script he wanted during the Ukraine call.
    -Vindman DID NOT FOLLOW CHAIN OF COMMAND before leaking to Schiff in the SCIF. Tell us again how military that was. Please.

  3. He should get a dishonorable discharge at minimum!!

    Don’t let the screen door smack you in the red ass on the way out!

  4. I understand L/Col Vindman wasn’t hurt too badly by his firing. He’s been reassigned to an Army War College (?) in Pennsylvania. He should have been asked/forced to resign and move back to Russia. With this black mark on his record, his chances of making bird colonel is slim to none.

    1. James, if you are a former member of the military, I find it impossible to believe that you perceive an oath of loyalty to any man, supersedes the oath one takes to defend the country and the U.S. Constitution. Vindman, as you know, is an American citizen. When is it cause to exile AN AMERICAN CITIZEN for responding to a legally authorized subpoena? To answer TRUTHFULLY under oath? Black mark on his record for honesty? Make America Sane Again.

      1. An oath is an oath regardless of who is at the receiving end or intended for. Vindman worked in the NSC at the DISCRETION OF THE PRESIDENT; meaning the President has the authority to hire and fire anyone he believes is or could be stabbing him in the back – like Vindman did. The President also has the authority (right) to select those who will follow and promote HIS policies – as the President. IF they can’t, won’t or don’t, they SHOULD be terminated.

        FYI: Vindman had prepared “talking points” for Trump for his call to Ukrainian President Zelensky. The President chose to NOT use Vindman’s ideas and did choose to use his own words. Reportedly THAT is what led Vindman into a tantrum against his SUPERIOR leading to his rightful firing.

      2. SyPhyllis, WTF do you know about being in the military or taking an oath to defend it!!

        Vindman had already been reprimanded in previous PR reviews for disrespecting his fellow US compatriots in front of Ukrainian personnel. He should have been fired years ago. He’s lucky not to be tried for treason! He’s lucky he admitted that he hadn’t actually heard what he claimed prior to testimony. I wouldn’t mind seeing a traitor like him getting dropped by a firing squad!