VA Lawmaker Proposes Bill That Lets Mothers Request an Abortion While in Labor: ‘My Bill Would Allow That’

Virginia State Delegate Kathy Tran (D-Va.) caused a few jaws to drop when she proposed a recent piece of legislation regarding abortion from the state capitol in Richmond.

In her proposal, Tran stated that the legislation would allow an abortion in the third trimester of the pregnancy. Del. Todd Gilbert (R-Va.) led the subcommittee hearing on Tran’s bill and asked some hard-hitting questions about the extent of the legislation.

During a back-and-forth filmed by the Virginia House GOP, Tran admitted that the bill allowed for an abortion to be requested while the mother is in labor if the birth would negatively impact her physical or mental health.

Watch:

Gilbert: How late in the third trimester could a physician perform an abortion if he indicated it would impair the mental health of a woman?

Tran: Or physical health.

Gilbert: Okay. I’m talking about the mental health.

Tran: Through the third trimester. The third trimester goes all the way up to 40 weeks.

Gilbert: Okay. But to the end of the third trimester?

Tran: Yep. I don’t think we have a limit in the bill.

Gilbert: Where it’s obvious that a woman’s about to give birth, that she has physical signs that she’s about to give birth. Would that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified? She’s dilating?

Tran: Mr. Chairman. That would be a decision that the doctor, the physician, and the woman would make.

Gilbert: I understand that. I’m asking if your bill allows that.

Tran: My bill would allow that, yes.

Her answers left many heartbroken.

The bill did not move forward in the Republican-controlled General Assembly, but the proposal of such a bill shocked many.

While this bill left many shocked, a similar bill was recently signed into law by the state of New York, as IJR previously reported.

What do you think?

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Allen Zabel
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How long before a bill will be passed, that allows termination of nursing home residents, to be legal?
After all. Most residents are parasites and useless lumps of flesh.
This, according to the Dem’s.
On the other hand.
If newborns had voting rights?
They’d be protecting them, at all costs.

Harry McDwyer
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Because a bill was brought to the floor does not mean it will pass into law. Also, how many doctors would actally do this? Just because a doctor can doesnt mean he will.

Ed
Member

You’d be surprised at how low many doctors would go for the money. It’s a very small percentage of them, but it would still be possible to find one with a little effort. There are bad apples in every profession.

Phil Martin
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Midtertms have great consequences in the days of TDS. This is what happens when enough good Christian voters get infected with TDS. We can not do whatever we want to our pets in America, but kill full term live babies is OK now in the first state to IMMEDIATELY follow the lead of NYS in granting this right to murder.

Coy Howell Jr.
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So what is next senior citizens, gas them just before they draw SS

Lizzie Helmer
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It’s really unfortunate that the physician witness wasn’t there because Tran did an awful job explaining. An abortion that late in the pregnancy isn’t an abortion in the typical sense, it’s either a medically induced delivery or c-section of a non-viable fetus. It’s just scientifically not possible to have an abortion while in labor. Also, third-trimester abortions are already legal in Virginia, Tran’s proposal just calls for fewer restrictions.

Phil Martin
Member

Lizzie, He said “..she is dilating..” That means the baby is about to come out. It is not an abortion. It is murder.

Phyllis Softa
Member

What part of non-viable did you not understand?

KhyberRifle
Member

I believe non-viable is a term used to describe an unborn baby who likely won’t be born with any chance to live. The Tran absurdity seems to address only the pregnant person (note I didn’t say mother): ” . . . if the birth would negatively impact her physical or mental health”

KhyberRifle
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Shush Mr Martin; you gotta get it right: “reproductive rights” is the term du jour; “reproductive health” – if you are confused about “rights” and inalienability. You could also have used “right to choose” but there’s not much womb for that term any longer. Murder would be sanctioned up to and including DOB (DOD?), but don’t call it that or risk being shamed for being politically incorrect. Perhaps the bill’ll fail as the aspirator required for 3rd term killings doesn’t yet meet ansi standards

Phoenix
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Lizzie, i didn’t get a chance to actually read what the proposed law is *changing*. I have noticed lately that these articles on proposed or newly passed fail to mention the current law which makes proposed law seem less drastic. I was burned again.

Did I read right that patient mental health is already considered in the VA late term abortion law and the proposed law (among other things) would simply reduce the number of consulted doctors from 3 to 1?

Phyllis Softa
Member

Your 18 down votes apparently do not understand the meaning of “non-viable.”

Phoenix
Member

A late term abortion is not going to stop the mental health issues associated with birth of a baby. This doesn’t make any sense to me.

Speaking for myself, my mental state wasn’t really reasonable when i was in labor. From urges to run away scared out of my to insane blabbering between contractions – I’m not sure anything i said could be taken seriously and most of it i don’t remember.

Phoenix
Member

I think that considering mental health is the correct thing to do, but not with a late term abortion. That isn’t a solution.

More support programs for new moms, anything to help improve mental health of a struggling mom post partum, better education on impacts birth (AND abortion) have on mental health so women can better make informed decisions upfront… those are solutions.

Abortion is not a solution to potential mental health concerns.

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