Fox News host Martha MacCallum called out Democratic Sen. Mark Kelly of Arizona after he claimed former President Donald Trump would sign a national abortion ban into law should he return to the White House in January.
Trump has repeatedly stated he does not support a national ban on abortion, even though he appointed three Supreme Court justices, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, who joined the court’s majority opinion in a June 2022 ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade and returned the issue of abortion to the states. MacCallum cut in when Kelly claimed abortion was banned in Arizona.
“Abortion is not banned in Arizona,” MacCallum said. The senator quickly responded, “There is a 15-week ban with no exceptions for rape and incest.”
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“But the issue is, if Donald Trump is back in the White House, he has previously said that given the opportunity, he will put in a nationwide abortion ban,” Kelly claimed, prompting MacCallum to cut him off, saying, “He didn’t say that. Senator, Senator, I’m sorry, he has not said that.”
Trump said that he would oppose the pro-abortion Amendment 4 referendum in Florida, claiming it went too far, though he also expressed concerns regarding the state’s ban on abortions after the sixth week of pregnancy.
Kelly tried to bring up past comments Trump made on abortion, prompting MacCallum to mention comments Vice President Kamala Harris made in the past on issues, including her support for a ban on hydraulic fracturing, also known as “fracking,” during the 2020 campaign before she reportedly reversed the position in the 2024 campaign.
“Do you want to start talking about what Kamala Harris has previously said?” MacCallum asked.
“I thought we were talking about Donald Trump,” Kelly replied.
“[Trump] has made it clear he will not ban abortion as president,” MacCallum said, continuing the back-and-forth exchange. “Do you accept that as true?”
The two proceeded to spar on the issue.
“Kamala Harris has said, made it very clear, that given the opportunity she’s going to bring back the rights and protections that people had under Roe vs. Wade, and Donald Trump has said previously that he would sign a nationwide abortion ban,” Kelly claimed.
“Just to be clear, he said he won’t sign an abortion ban,” MacCallum told Kelly.
An act of Congress would be required for either candidate to change federal abortion policy, however, many experts have pegged this as unlikely, according to CNBC, because it would necessitate 60 votes in the Senate to end debate on the legislation. Harris, alongside other Democratic lawmakers, have floated the idea of eliminating the filibuster, which would enable bills to pass with a simple majority, though such a change has also been deemed improbable.
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