Former Press Secretary Sean Spicer discussed his new book “Trump 2.0: The Revolution That Will Permanently Transform America” in a sit-down interview with the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Spicer argued that President Donald Trump’s four years out of the Oval Office fundamentally changed his approach to presidential politics. He also offered some behind-the-scenes details of his time at the White House. (RELATED: Why President Trump Fired Pam Bondi)
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“Number one, the overarching thing that makes Trump one and Trump two different is the time out of office, the four years between. I had a conversation with the president about this and I said, ‘Mr. President, I know that you probably don’t like the fact that [former President Joe] Biden was between you,” Spicer began.
“Four years out of office gave him time to think. The people, the process in the policies when you’re out of office, you get to think to yourself, what will I do differently when I come back? Who will I bring in? And then what are our priorities going to be?”
Spicer noted that Trump wants to leave a “stamp on the face of government,” in the form of White House renovations and lasting policy changes.
“You think about it when you’re sequential, Jan. 20 becomes the 21, comes to 22, the same chief of staff, the same press secretary. Whatever you are working on on a Monday or Tuesday goes into Wednesday. When you’re out of office for four years, you have to think, what am I going to do differently?”
Spicer went on to contrast Trump’s more “establishment” first-term cabinet picks and the loyalist coterie assembled for his second.
“If you think about Rex Tillerson, the secretary of state. He didn’t know Trump. We literally called him up,” Spicer recounted. “They had no relationship. [Secretary of War] Pete Hegseth and the president have known each other for 15 years.”
“[Border czar] Tom Homan knew what cities to go to, how to handle, you know, immigration, and border security out of the gate. They had been thinking about things. They had Project 2025, America First Policy Institute, and the Heritage Foundation,” Spicer continued. “All these groups had been thinking about the people, the process, the policies. And I went through and looked at every action, the cabinet members, the relationship that they have that is different from the first term. The list goes on and on of people in his cabinet, in his inner circle that he’s known for a long time that was very different than Trump one.”
CHARLIE KIRK
A section in Spicer’s forthcoming book is dedicated to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. I asked if Kirk’s killing remained a clarion call for conservatives despite many on the podcast circuit’s devolution into conspiracy theorizing and unfounded hostility toward Erika Kirk.
“I could not have fathomed somebody standing up and shooting someone like Charlie. Like, I won’t name names, but there’s people on the right that are incendiary by nature,” Spicer began. “I wish that more people on our side were really invigorated. I know a lot of people have turned to faith, they’ve gotten involved. But like, we need to understand what’s at stake. Charlie got it.”
“We control the levers of government, okay? And [FBI Director] Kash Patel, [former deputy FBI Director] Dan Bongino, up until recently, those guys were friends with Charlie. I trust them,” Spicer continued. “If Dan Bongino tells me there’s nothing there or cash says it, I trust him because these are the guys that would want, on a personal level, to make sure that Charlie’s death was not in vain and that the killer was brought to justice”
“So when they say that Tyler Robinson was the killer, I believe Kash Patel, I believe Dan Bongino,” he added.
ANTI-WHITENESS
In “Trump 2.0,” Spicer highlights the New Yorker’s Doreen St. Felix as an example of rabid anti-whiteness on the left. I asked the author for his thoughts on what animates left-wing anti-whiteness, and how it came to dominate the American left.
“It’s worse than that. You look at what happened in the Illinois primary for a congressional seat, right. They went after JB Pritzker for not endorsing the right black person,” Spicer opined.
“The left and more specifically, the Democratic Party is cobbled together through a bunch of coalitions of grievance. Right? They’re not for anything.”
“They used to be for the working men and women and for union workers,” Spicer continued. “The dynamic has shifted. Republicans are now the party of working men and women. And what the Democrats stand for depends on who you are. So therefore, every disadvantaged group in their mind, they want grievances, they want you to feel like you can’t succeed in this country.”
“Trump 2.0: The Revolution That Will Permanently Transform America” releases April 28. It is available for purchase on Amazon.
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