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‘You Never Push Back’: Katie Miller Confronts Abby Phillip Over Guest’s Calling Stephen Miller A ‘White Supremacist’

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November 29, 2025 at 11:15 am
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‘You Never Push Back’: Katie Miller Confronts Abby Phillip Over Guest’s Calling Stephen Miller A ‘White Supremacist’

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Conservative podcaster Katie Miller called out “CNN NewsNight” host Abby Phillip on Friday, claiming she allowed a guest to call her husband, White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller, a “white nationalist.”

After former Democratic South Carolina State Rep. Bakari Sellers discussed white nationalist Nick Fuentes being interviewed by Tucker Carlson, a co-founder of the Daily Caller and Daily Caller News Foundation, Katie Miller, a former Trump administration official, fired back.

“Are you okay with Nick Fuentes?” Sellers asked Miller, who responded, “Here we go. I’m a Jew. Do you want to go there? And let’s say this— ”

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“Yeah, I just asked the question. It was ‘yes’ or ‘no’. Are you okay with Nick Fuentes?” Sellers pressed, with Miller responding, “If Nick Fuentes wants to be able to speak freely in our country, he has every right to do so. Do I agree with his views? Do I think that they should be mainstream in our country? Absolutely not.”

After some additional back and forth with Phillip getting involved, Miller turned to Phillip.

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“You host people on your show all the time who call my husband and myself a Nazi,” Miller told Phillip, triggering another round of back and forth.

“That is a different thing— ,” Phillip said before Miller cut in.

“Excuse me, you have [left-leaning podcast host and former reality TV star] Jennifer Welch on your show very often and you’ve never pushed back as she has called … my husband a white nationalist,” Miller pointed out.

Jennifer Welch labeled Stephen Miller a “white supremacist” and a “Nazi Jew” during Phillip’s Oct. 23 appearance on Welch’s podcast, “I’ve Had It.” Phillip did not push back against Welch’s characterization of Miller, who is Jewish, during that conversation.

After additional exchanges, including conservative panelist Scott Jennings and Miller describing Fuentes’s views as “hateful,” Miller pressed her point.

“Let’s go back to this point one more time,” Miller said. “Nick Fuentes can espouse an opinion on Tucker Carlson’s show and he didn’t push back, the same way you didn’t push back when someone called someone in my family a Nazi. It’s not different, Abby.”

The Millers were forced to move from their home in Arlington, Virginia after a campaign of targeted harassment which included written messages such as “Stephen Miller is destroying democracy,” “no white nationalism” and “trans rights are human rights” on public sidewalks near his residence. In addition, flyers listing his home address were posted.

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