Fox Newsâs Tucker Carlson is pressing South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) on whether she is âcaving to the NCAAâ with her decision not to sign a bill banning transgender girls from female sports.
During his show Monday night, Carlson noted Noemâs bill is popular in her state and it could be popular nationally.
âYou said you were excited to sign it⌠big business intercedes, NCAA, Chamber of Commerce and Amazon and tell you not to sign it and you change your mind,â Carlson said.
Noem replied, âWell, thatâs not true, Tucker⌠I could sign the bill the way that it is today but it wouldnât solve the problem.â
She claimed the bill would âonly allow the NCAAÂ to bully South Dakota.â The governor argued it would prevent women from participating in sports at the collegiate level.
Watch their exchange below:
Noem noted she has asked the legislature to make style and form changes to the bill.
Carlson asked Noem how the bill specifically would prevent women from participating in sports in the state.
âIt would put a law on the books that would allow the NCAA to take punitive action against our state, and weâre a small state, Tucker. We have had to fight hard to get any tournaments to come to South Dakota,â Noem explained.
She added, âWhen they took punitive action against us we would have to litigate, and legal scholars that I have been consulting with for many, many months say I would very likely lose those litigation efforts.â
As Noem explained the legal aspects of the bill, Carlson interrupted, âSo you are saying the NCAA threatened you⌠They said, âIf you sign this, we wonât allow girls in South Dakota to play,â and you donât think you can win in court, even though the public overwhelmingly supports you nationally, and so you are caving to the NCAA?â
She told Carlson he was âwrong completely.â
When consulting legal scholars across the nation, they told Noem she needs to build a coalition which is why she launched âDefend Title IX Now.â
âListen, Iâm sick and tired of the NCAA threatening states, challenging us and bullying us, so we are going to build a coalition of leaders, athletes and people who want to protect womenâs sports,â Noem said.
The Fox News host asked Noem why she does not just challenge the NCAA âin the court of public opinion and defend principle.â
âTucker, you are preaching my sermon,â Noem responded.
Sharing her experience of being âbullied for the last year by liberals,â Noem said, âIâm not going to let anybody from the NCAA, from any big business, Iâm not even going to let conservatives on the right bully me. Iâm going to solve the problem.â
