David Spade didnât need a stage to launch into a rant â just a mall tree-lighting ceremony that, in his view, tiptoed around the word âChristmas.â
According to Fox News, during a Sunday episode of his âFly on the Wallâ podcast with Dana Carvey, the comedian said he was stunned to see organizers âconsciouslyâ dodge any mention of Christmas at an event meant to celebrate a Christmas tree.
Spade, 61, told listeners he watched the ceremony unfold and couldnât believe the wording.
âI will say that Christmas is taking a little bit of a beating lately,â he said. âIt is December, and I saw the other day there was a tree-lighting ceremony for the Christmas tree in some dopey mall, but it said tree-lighting ceremony, and they were careful not to say the word Christmas during the whole ceremony.â
Carvey immediately reacted: âNo.â
âWhy?â Spade asked. âSo itâs just a tree? ⌠But to consciously avoid that, then what is the tree for? A December to Remember? Is it a Lexus dealership?â
The back-and-forth quickly veered into the duoâs shared disbelief, with both comedians insisting theyâd never met anyone of another Faith who felt slighted by seeing a Christmas tree.
âIâd say stop that bullsâ,â Spade said, as Carvey added, âEveryone loves Santa and the tree and all the trappings.â
The conversation broadened as Carvey, 67, said the holiday has long taken on a secular tone in the United States.
âIf youâre of Faith, itâs about Christianity,â he said. âBut I think at this point in America, itâs just Christmas. Itâs a fun holiday.â
Spade pushed back on efforts to police language.
âI donât like the thought police,â Carvey said, and Spade agreed, adding that he disliked what he saw as growing âanti-Christian feel.â
While Carvey jokingly called Spade a âsecularâ or âlapsedâ Christian, Spade said he preferred âjust more spiritual.â
He then suggested Christianity is treated differently from other religions.
âLike is this where we get the hammer? You canât say that about anyone else,â Spade said. He went on to reference Christian persecution abroad, noting, âThis is not the year to be Christian.â
Humanitarian organizations have indeed warned of rising violence in parts of Africa. A June 2025 report from International Christian Concern cited killings, abductions and forced displacement in nations including Nigeria and the Democratic Republic of the Congo.
President Donald Trump has also designated Nigeria a âcountry of particular concern,â while Pope Leo XIV, the State Department and various public figures have condemned recent attacks.
After the heavier turn, Spade circled back to his original frustration.
âWe can call it a Christmas tree,â he said. âI still donât want to offend people ⌠Youâre not allowed to slam someone elseâs religion.â
His remarks followed similar backlash in Portland, where the city again hosted its annual tree-lighting event without using the word âChristmas.â
Critics online accused organizers of scrubbing the holiday, though Portland Mayor Keith Wilsonâs office later referred to it explicitly as a âChristmas Tree Lightingâ while dismissing the controversy.
