Republican J.D. Vance buried Democratic Rep. Tim Ryan Monday night during the Ohio U.S. Senate debate, successfully highlighting the Democratās radical stances on both Abortion and immigration in one fell swoop.
Asked by a debate moderator what limits, if any, he supports regarding Abortion, Ryan responded that he wanted to codify Roe v. Wade.
āThat was established law for 50 years, and we didnāt have all the chaos that weāre having now,ā the congressman said. āWeāve got to have some moderation on this issue.ā
Well, thatās a trick response, because Roe did not establish any set time limit during the pregnancy after which abortions would be illegal.
The majority in Roe said after the age of viability of the baby outside the womb ā the court referenced 24 weeks (six months) ā a state āmay, if it chooses, regulate or even proscribe, Abortion except where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment for the preservation of the life or health of the mother.ā
Vance pointed to his opponentās vote for the Womenās Health Protection Act, which goes well beyond Roe to start making the case that Ryan is an extremist on the issue.
āHe says that he wants to codify Roe. He voted for a piece of legislation that would have overturned Roe and required Abortion on demand at 40 weeks for fully elective reasons,ā Vance said.
Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler noted that the Womenās Health Protection Act language allows abortions up to the time of birth when the āhealthā of the mother is at issue.
Critics say that is an exception, based on court precedent, that you can drive a Mack truck through, with factors like emotional, psychological or familial health cited as the reason for the late-term Abortion.
Vance noted that Ryan also voted against legislation in 2018 requiring medical care to be given to babies that survive abortions.
Asked specifically if he would support GOP Sen. Lindsey Grahamās bill creating a federal ban on Abortion after 15 weeks (four months into the pregnancy), Vance suggested he would.
āSome minimum national standard is totally fine with me,ā the Republican said, noting that unborn babies by five months are fully formed and can feel pain.
āNo civilized country in the world allows elective Abortion that late in pregnancy. I donāt think the United States should be an exception,ā Vance said.
Asked about his flip from being Pro-life earlier in his congressional career, Ryan responded that after talking with women constituents he had come to believe that āthe government has no place in these matters.ā
āThis needs to be left to the woman. It needs to be left to the doctor to make these decisions,ā he added.
That is clearly beyond the Roe language quoted above where the court said the government does have an interest in these matters, at least when a baby can survive outside the womb.
As a side note, a very strange inconsistency in the law is that someone who attacks a pregnant woman and kills her unborn child ā regardless of the point in the pregnancy in many states ā can be charged with murder.
The woman could have been planning to have an Abortion the next day, and it would not matter, because that unborn child is protected by the law.
Vanceās coup de grĆ¢ce on the issue of Abortion against Ryan came near the end of the exchange.
A debate moderator brought up the topic of exceptions, citing the case of a 10-year-oldOhio girl who was raped, and her family took her to neighboring Indiana to get an Abortion because the 6-week limit had passed in her home state.
āIāve always believed in reasonable exceptions. This is a misrepresentation of my view, but letās hear it from me not from Congressman Ryan,ā Vance answered.
āLook, Iāve got a 9-year-old baby girl at home,ā he continued. āI cannot imagine what thatās like for the girl, for her family. God forbid something like that would happen. Iāve said repeatedly on the record that I think that that girl should be able to get an Abortion if she and her family so choose to do so.ā
āBut letās talk about that case because why was a 10-year-old girl raped in our community, raped in our state, in the first place? The thing the media and Congressman Ryan ā they talk about this all the time ā the thing they never mention is that poor girl was raped by an illegal alien,ā Vance said.
The 27-year-old alleged rapist, Gerson Fuentes, is in the U.S. illegally from Guatemala, Fox News reported.
āThat poor girl was raped by an illegal alien, somebody who shouldāve never been in this state in the first place,ā Vance said.
The Republican then pinned the issue right on Ryan.
āYou voted so many times against border wall funding, so many times for amnesty, Tim,ā Vance said.
āIf you had done your job, she would have never been raped in the first place. Do your job on border security, donāt lecture me about opinions I donāt actually have,ā the candidate concluded.
Conservative commentator Benny Johnson tweeted, āThis is the exact moment where JD Vance won the Ohio Senate seat. Itās over. And it only took 30 seconds.ā
Jack Posobiec tweeted in response, āJD didnāt just win the debate, he just ended this manās entire career.ā
Mike Cernovich observed, āTim Ryan was very shook at the end. Really was jarred and had no response. This type of debate style by JD Vance is the new standard.ā
Agreed. Vance pulled off a great reversal, first highlighting Ryanās radical stand on Abortion and slamming him on his disastrous border policies with a real-world example from Ohio.
Thatās the way itās done!
This article appeared originally on The Western Journal.
