Joe Rogan revealed Tuesday what President Donald Trump actually said in his ear at an Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) match in early April.
Media speculation ran wild over whether Trump scolded Rogan at UFC 327 in Miami, Florida, in what the press framed as an“awkward” conversation, given that Rogan had been critical of the Iran war. However, Rogan said on “The Joe Rogan Experience” that it had been a friendly conversation with Trump about ibogaine, psychoactive drug, and how it helped veterans suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
“The other thing, the big conspiracy theory, is that Trump is mad at you and he came up to you at the UFC and he was talking shit to you,” comedian Luis J. Gomez said, referring to rumors about the conversation.
“No, it’s the opposite,” Rogan answered. “It was literally the opposite.”
Rogan said he had texted Trump on Friday about ibogaine and its benefits for those struggling with PTSD and opiate addictions. He said that Trump ran into him at the UFC fight and told Rogan that ibogaine was receiving approval from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for easier access.
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“And so literally, he sees me at the UFC the next day shakes my hand and says it’s done. That’s what he was saying. I was like I said, thank you, sir It wasn’t like he was mad at me at all,” Rogan said. “He came to me and he said, ‘it’s done. We’re gonna take care of this. This is a good thing. It’s a good thing for the soldiers, good thing for everybody.’ And then he had the press conference the next week.”
Trump signed an executive order titled “Accelerating Medical Treatments For Serious Mental Illnesses” on Saturday which allows expedited reviews of psychedelic drugs to be used for medical purposes and mental health conditions. The order also seeks to address the “burden of suicide and serious mental illness rates in America” by allowing psychedelics like ibogaine to be researched and used in specific cases.
Rogan attended the signing in the Oval Office and spoke of the benefits of ibogaine.
“In 2024, more than 80,000 people died of overdoses, it’s a horrible number,” Rogan said in the Oval Office. “And there’s more than 5 million people that are addicted to opioids right now in this country. With one dose of ibogaine, more than 80% of people are free of that addiction. With two doses, it’s more than 90%.”
Rogan has been highly critical of the war in Iran, saying in March that the war was “insane” and that many people felt “betrayed” by Trump. He stated on Thursday that Trump’s base voted for him in part because he promised there would be no new wars.
“Most people that voted for Trump or wanted Trump to be in office, one of the things that was attractive was this: No more wars,” Rogan said. “Now we’re in one of the craziest ones.”
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