âMonty Pythonâ actor John Cleese is taking aim at the so-called âwokesâ who he believes are putting a strain on creativity.
In an interview with Reason Magazineâs Nick Gillespie, Cleese labeled the education system and âwokeismâ the âenemies of creativity.â
âItâs the internal interruption that I was talking about. You think of an idea and you immediately think: âOooh, is that going to get me into trouble? Well, that person last Thursday got away with it,'â the actor explained. âBut all that stuff immediately stops you being creative.â
When asked what âpercentageâ of his work would be âinadmissible or not permittedâ by todayâs standards, Cleese said it âchanges unpredictably.â
âI mean, in my day there was an enormous explosion in England, I think it was 196, when Kenneth Tynan, who was our best theater critic, deliberately used the word f***. And, I mean, it was nuclear,â he offered as an explanation, adding, âNow I can say f***, and one or two people might twitch. Most people arenât bothered by it at all, but that was the forbidden word.â
Now, he argued the âforbidden wordâ today is the N-word:
Now, just consider this situation: If I actually pronounce the N-word today, which Iâm not going toârelax! But if I did, it would be in the papers tomorrow. Now, how useful is that? The woke people, I think, miss something quite badly. The meaning of a word depends on its context. If I use sarcasm, then what Iâm meaning is the opposite of the words Iâm actually saying.
Cleese added, âIf you donât get irony, then if you take it seriously, you completely misunderstand the intention of the writer or speaker.â
Cleese shared how important he believes laughter is because it âtakes us to a part of our mind where weâre probably healthier than we are at any other time, and itâs this thing about laughing at yourself.â
However, he said, âIâm not so sure that the wokes would ever laugh at themselves, no matter how hilarious they are.â
The actor also suggested people too often take words out of their context to create controversy.
âI mean, just now I said âshut upâ to you,â he noted. âBut everybody smiled, because they knew it was done with affection and as a joke. If that was reported tomorrow in The Hollywood Reporter, that Iâd said that to you without any giving of context, it would look as though I was being very rude and unpleasantâ
Cleese shared an example of controversy that erupted after he attended the South by Southwest festival.
âWe had a fellow who was Puerto Rican, we had someone who was African American, we had someone who was Jewish, we had a Scot, and an old white Englishman,â he began.
Despite noting the participants were teasing each other and how there was an atmosphere of âjoy at the freedom of it,â he accused The Hollywood Reporter of taking the comments out of context and sparking controversy.
âI mean, why? What are they getting out of it?â he asked.
Finally, Cleese suggested, âThere are people sitting there who are deliberately waiting for the thrill of being offended.â
