‘The Entire Country Is Going To Collapse’: Chris Wallace Spars With NYT Reporter Over Harris’s Campaign Pivot

CNN host Chris Wallace challenged The New York Times reporter Lulu Garcia-Navarro’s defense of Vice President Kamala Harris, igniting a broader debate on Harris’s political positions and the rhetoric used against her by critics.

During a discussion on “The Chris Wallace Show” about the Harris campaign’s strategic shift away from focusing on former President Donald Trump as a “threat” to democracy, Garcia-Navarro expressed frustration with Republican criticisms labeling Harris as “far-left.” Wallace, however, remained unconvinced, leading to an exchange over Harris’s political identity and the ongoing rhetoric surrounding her.

“I have to say that I am so exhausted with the idea that she’s so far left and that she’s a communist. They tried this with Biden in 2020. ‘Biden’s a communist, if he gets into power, the entire country is going to collapse!’ I mean, this is something I hear in Miami all the time,” Garcia-Navarro said.

“She’s said a lot of pretty far-left things in 2019,” Wallace answered. Garcia-Navarro acknowledged that Harris has pivoted from some of those earlier positions, but emphasized that her past statements should not define her current political standing.

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“Biden was not a communist, the country hasn’t fallen into communism, and I will say that she in 2019 said some things that definitely fall into the progressive camp, which she has now recanted — ” Garcia-Navarro told Wallace.

Podcaster Kara Swisher quickly interjected and voiced frustration with the scrutiny Harris faces. “It’s never good enough! Donald Trump could—” she began, before Wallace interrupted.