
White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles admitted in an interview released Wednesday she didnāt know why Tesla CEO Elon Musk and President Donald Trump fell out.
Trump and Musk exchanged cheap shots via posts on their social media platforms in June stemming from Muskās criticism of the reconciliation bill Trump signed into law Friday. New York Post reporter Miranda Devine asked Wiles on the āPod Force Oneā podcast about Musk, who served as a special advisor until May 30.
āThe president was very, very kind to him and, and Elon had so much to offer us. He knew things we didnāt know. He knew people and, and technologies that we didnāt know. He, it was, it was a great thing when it was a great thing,ā Wiles said. āAnd, um, and, and had a very, I think, a very troublesome ending.ā
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āWhy do you think that happened?ā Devine asked Wiles, who responded, āI donāt know. I donāt understand it. I donāt know. I know that what has been said doesnāt ring accurate to me, but I donāt know. I enjoyed working with Elon. I think heās a fascinating person and sees the world differently, and I think thatās probably what the president saw, too.ā
Musk led the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) after Trump established it in a Jan. 20 executive order. Wiles dismissed the notion that jealousy was involved in the end of the bromance between Trump and Musk.
āNo, that doesnāt sound like Elon,ā Wiles told Devine. āI donāt know. I donāt know.ā
Musk and Trump clashed again as the reconciliation bill passed the Senate and eventually went to Trumpās desk for his signature, with Musk announcing the formation ofĀ third party for disaffected fiscal conservatives. Trump took aim at the move in a Sunday post on Truth Social.
āI am saddened to watch Elon Musk go completely āoff the rails,ā essentially becoming a TRAIN WRECK over the past five weeks. He even wants to start a Third Political Party, despite the fact that they have never succeeded in the United States ā The System seems not designed for them,ā Trump posted. āThe one thing Third Parties are good for is the creation of Complete and Total DISRUPTION & CHAOS, and we have enough of that with the Radical Left Democrats, who have lost their confidence and their minds!ā
DOGE identified $190 billion in savings since Trump established it, an average of $1,180.12 per taxpayer, according to the organizationās website. The department lists the savings it has identified on its website, breaking it down into contracts, leases and grants. It also breaks down spending, while providing information on the federal workforce and government regulations.
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