‘Concentrated Group Of People In White House’ Sold Out For Special Interests, Former Advisor Says

The advisor who broached the alliance between President Donald Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. expressed disappointment with remarkable candor in an interview on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast on Friday.

“There is a very concentrated group of people in the Trump administration that are antagonistic to what people voted for and, I think it’s very clear, are doing things for other reasons, particularly in many cases to enrich their families,” said former Kennedy advisor Calley Means. “The way this White House is set up, it has the most centralized control, up to the chief of staff’s office, of any administration in American history.”

“Susie Wiles is the most powerful chief of staff in modern American history,” he added. “There are entire cabinet meetings about how to get on the good side with her.”

Means helped set the stage for the Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) movement that persuaded many voters who did not traditionally vote Republican to pull the lever for Trump.

The interview published within hours of the news breaking that former Chief of Staff Susie Wiles had resigned and that immigration advisor Stephen Miller would take her place following a rout by Democrats in the midterm election.

“After years of being on the political sidelines, the MAHA coalition has found a champion in President Trump, who has made incredible strides to Make America Healthy Again,” said White House spokeswomen Allison Schuster. “The Administration has already secured extensive victories for the MAHA Agenda, including overhauling the dietary guidelines for Americans, axing artificial ingredients in our food supply, and investing in regenerative farming. President Trump and Secretary Kennedy continue to work around the clock to deliver more wins for the American people.”

Means did not respond to a request for comment. Wiles could not be reached for comment.

Kennedy did not respond directly to the interview, but said in a post on X that he “stands firmly behind President Trump and the historic reforms we are advancing together” and touted recent reforms on nutrition policy.

Rogan, whose interview with Trump days before the election drew 63 million views, said the MAHA alliance was “one of the main things I was excited about with Trump getting into office.”