Watch: President of National Women's Law Center Declines to Define What a Woman Is


The question of what the definition of a woman is has been a hot topic in recent months.

During a House hearing on Wednesday, Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.) decided to ask Fatima Goss Grave, the president of the National Women’s Law Center, if she could provide the definition.

“Since you’re the president of the National Women’s Law Center, I was hoping that you could define what a woman is for us,” Clyde said.

However, Goss Graves did not elect to share a definition.

Instead, she said, “As the president of the National Women’s Law Center, you can imagine I say woman a lot in my day job.”

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“OK, so I’m just asking for the definition,” Clyde interjected.

However, Goss Graves said, “What I’ll tell you is, I am a woman. That’s how I identify. But I wonder, however, if in part the reason that you’re asking the question is that you’re trying to suggest that…”

“I’m simply asking the question and I simply want an answer,” the Congressman said.

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Goss Graves pressed on, “I think it’s actually really important to be very clear here that there are people who identify as nonbinary. I think about 5% of young people… who can be pregnant.”

However, Clyde interjected again as he said, “OK, alright, we’re not gonna go there. I was hoping that maybe you would say something that maybe we learned in high school biology that has to do with X and Y chromosomes which define male and female but I guess we’re not going to get there.”

During the confirmation hearings for Supreme Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson in March, Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.) asked, “Can you provide a definition for the word ‘woman’?”

“Can I provide a definition?” Jackson asked.

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When Blackburn confirmed that was her question, Jackson said, “I can’t.”

“You can’t?” the senator asked.

Jackson explained, “Not in this context I’m not a biologist.”

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She added, “Senator, in my work as a judge, what I do is I address disputes. If there’s a dispute about a definition, people make arguments, and I look at the law and I decide.”

“The fact that you can’t give me a straight answer about something as fundamental as what a woman is underscores the dangers of the kind of progressive education that we are hearing about,” Blackburn shot back.

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